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Psoriatic arthritis alternative treatment??

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Alittlestory · 19/06/2020 22:46

I am very apprehensive about telling this story as I am not sure how it will be received. Please be kind in your replies. Almost 20 years ago, I developed some mild psoriasis and shortly after some arthritis and nail pitting. About 6 months after these symptoms started I had a wisdom tooth removed. Immediately after the tooth was removed I felt so much better. The brain fog lifted immediately. Slowly the pitting grew out of my nails. And the joint pain disappeared. I felt sure that it was linked to the wisdom tooth removal but obviously no idea why. A few months after this happened I felt the pain return. In desparation I decided to almost recreate what happened when I had my tooth removed. At the point in my gum where the tooth no longer was (lower wisdom tooth), I pressed my nail in to feel pain there. Not enough to break the gum or anything but I could feel the pain wash over me from a nerve I was obviously hitting. This provided instant relief again. Over the years I have done this many times and it seems to control symptoms for me. I Haven’t told anyone as I think it sounds so crazy but I started to want to share this story now anonymously just in case this is something anyone else has experienced and start a conversation about this. Perhaps it could lead to more treatments. I have digged around on the internet and I wonder if I am touching the vagus nerve. Electrical stimulation of the vagus nerve has been investigated as a potential treatment for psoriasis treatment and could this be connected to what happened to me. Interestingly vagus nerve stimulation is also linked to depression treatment. And psoriasis and depression seem to have a link too. Could some sort of malfunction of this nerve be the key to what causes this awful disease.

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Lonecatwithkitten · 22/06/2020 21:00

With your tooth you are nowhere near the pathway of the vagus nerve, which I have attached an anatomical diagram off. The closest main nerve would be your facial nerve which is a motor nerve rather than an autonomic nerve.
Autoimmune disease is a waxing waning disease that comes and goes at different levels due to a wide variety of factors.

Psoriatic arthritis alternative treatment??
Alittlestory · 22/06/2020 21:11

Thank you for your reply. I found a diagram that showed the pharyngeal branch of the vagus nerve looked like it came close to this area. I don’t know how to post link on my phone.

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Alittlestory · 22/06/2020 21:15

Also there have been devices made which stimulate the vagus nerve using a device located close to the ear which is in the same region (approximately) as wisdom teeth

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Lonecatwithkitten · 22/06/2020 21:49

That branch goes to the very back of the mouth way behind the teeth.

Alittlestory · 22/06/2020 21:55

Ok. It may be nothing to do with the vagus nerve. This was just me trying to make sense of it. I just felt almost a responsibility to tell this story. It would be amazing if treatment could be found that treated the cause rather than the symptoms. A drug free treatment especially. I know it sounds crazy which is why I have not told anyone so far.

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Lonecatwithkitten · 23/06/2020 06:35

The cause is a screwed up immune system with a genetic component causing the immune system to screw up. Until we know why the immune system screws up in the way it does each individual treating the 'cause' is tricky.
I have pernicious anaemia, vItelligo, MCTD and fibromyalgia, but my mum has sjogrens and her sister ( my aunt) has diabetes T1 and hypothyroidism. All have same screwed immune system from same genetic source, but different expressions of this. We have an incredibly long way to go in understanding immune mediated disease.

MitziK · 09/07/2020 20:01

It's possible that there was infection in your gum that was treated by the dentist. Infection = inflammation. Remove one source of infection = reducing the overall level of inflammation.

You need proper treatment for your autoimmune condition. Not pressing on your gum with your nail.

pinkprosseco · 18/06/2021 07:49

I developed severe psoriasis following a nasty chest infection and virus which went round my office. My consultant said it was my immune system in over drive . The psoriasis was treated with biological injections and is completely gone but he warned could start up again with another infection. There's a name for it beginning with E which I forget but I'm always aware of trying to stay healthy: I really dreaded getting Covid but I have been lucky so far. It could be the infection

Hax · 25/06/2021 16:48

I have auto immune disease. It flares up from time to time.
Pretty much anything that puts a strain on my body increases inflammation and causes a flare up. So, virus, infection, vaccine, toothache, minor surgery, injury, stress, etc.
That is why your tooth problem was a trigger.

EIIa · 10/09/2021 23:36

Op, my psoriasis spontaneously cleared up after I had a tooth removed because it had a root canal and I thought it would be worth the effort!

I had been to a naturopath who said that I had contracted it after a root canal and she was right

Ten years later the P is back however

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