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Pros & cons of moving to Aus from UK

20 replies

Wanttohelpbuthow · 16/02/2025 10:17

I’m sure this has been asked a million times!
3 young kids & DH

have family 30 mins from Sydney (uncle/auntie) so maybe near them would be helpful but not a must

love being outdoorsy, in nature & near the sea

currently live in Surrey countryside!

OP posts:
User1786 · 16/02/2025 10:23

Pro’s. Better standard of living, weather, beaches, it looks lovely.
Con’s. I’m terrified of spiders! The snakes and crocodiles I’m fine with but the spiders… I’m not sure I’d cope!

Cormoran · 17/02/2025 08:00

The very first point has to be , would you be allowed to move here. Are you a citizen or do you have to apply for a visa and which?
Then, what do you call near the sea?
Houses near the beaches are very expensive, and I mean very very expensive.
Cost of living has gone up so much in the last years. Even when you are used to it, it is still a shock to see kiwis costing $20.90/kg at woolies.
Fresh fruits and vegetables are very expensive compared to Europe. Junk is cheap.
Flight prices have jumped. Domestic and international. We are very lucky to have one flight per year paid by DH's work. We pay for the second flight home, and what we used to pay for business pre-covid is now the economy price if you have to travel during school holidays.
Weather is nice, but weather is nice in Italy, Spain, South of France as well.
Houses here are poorly build. There is no heating as one is used to in Europe. No radiators, it is air con or if you are lucky, a gas bayonet in the wall to which you attach a very expensive (+1200$) Rinnai heater.

Health system is a bit worse than continental Europe. Even when you have top private health care, you can't use it to see doctors such as Gp or specialists, or having imaging or testing done. Private health only covers in-hospital care. In Sydney, it is very hard to find a free GP (it is called bulk billing), you have out of pocket fees of roughly $45 and for specialist, the out of pocket will be several hundreds $. Private funds will cover extra such as dental, physio, glasses with varying degree of co-pay.

The main con, is how far you will be from everything and everyone. Just for fun, simulate the cost of 5 tickets to UK during typical school holidays.

Renting is expensive, buying even more.

As you see, there is a recurrent theme. The cost of living. That is something a family of 5 should consider. What is the point of moving here and end up in shitty suburbs because everything else is unaffordable.

You don't mention art and culture, which is good, because prices are ridiculous and options are very limited. And some weird reasons, they translate the operas played here, which annoys me beyond reason. Outdoor is free, but outdoor is free in Southern Europe too , with the added benefit that you can go skiing in Winter . Thredbo is a joke when you are used to the Dolomites.

A big pro, is how nice people are. And how safe it is. The safety of going for a swim and you bag is not taken the second you turn your head.
The ocean is nice but oh boy is the water cold. Except now. February and March are the best months for a swim.

StellaShining · 17/02/2025 10:05

Many of the pros and cons will be dependant on where you live. Have you been here before? Do you have an idea of where in Sydney you’re aiming for? It’s a massive city, so even saying your family live 30 minutes away, that could be a couple of hours if you’re going from one side to the other.

The Northern Beaches (north) or the Shire (south) would probably be what you’re looking for. Near the beach, very outdoorsy. Check out Realestate.com.au for property options.

Agree with many of the points raised by @Cormoran, it’s eye watering expensive but Surry isn’t cheap either!

There’s a Facebook page called Ping Pong Poms which might be helpful. Sydney Mums Group might also be handy.

Passwordsaremynemesis · 17/02/2025 11:15

It really depends on where you want to move to. It’s a big place! I’m in Perth and it’s very different to the East coast. Also, would you be able to move here, it’s not that simple and can be pretty expensive! FWIW it’s the best thing I ever did, but for useful advice you need to give a little more info.

SophW89 · 17/02/2025 12:18

StellaShining · 17/02/2025 10:05

Many of the pros and cons will be dependant on where you live. Have you been here before? Do you have an idea of where in Sydney you’re aiming for? It’s a massive city, so even saying your family live 30 minutes away, that could be a couple of hours if you’re going from one side to the other.

The Northern Beaches (north) or the Shire (south) would probably be what you’re looking for. Near the beach, very outdoorsy. Check out Realestate.com.au for property options.

Agree with many of the points raised by @Cormoran, it’s eye watering expensive but Surry isn’t cheap either!

There’s a Facebook page called Ping Pong Poms which might be helpful. Sydney Mums Group might also be handy.

Ping Pong Poms is a great group and gives a more balanced account of expat life.

Happyinarcon · 17/02/2025 12:25

Remember that you won’t get to pop on a cheap half hour flight and be anywhere in Europe for the weekend. I have family in the UK and whenever i open facebook someone is in Greece or Spain. Europe is 2 flights and 20 hours away

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 17/02/2025 13:59

My son' just moved to Australia, north of Perth. He's been previously for a year. He's gone for the work life balance and to be able to go to the beach every day after work. Downside for him, too hot to work in summer (he'll just travel for a couple if months when too hot).

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 17/02/2025 14:00

Happyinarcon · 17/02/2025 12:25

Remember that you won’t get to pop on a cheap half hour flight and be anywhere in Europe for the weekend. I have family in the UK and whenever i open facebook someone is in Greece or Spain. Europe is 2 flights and 20 hours away

Thailand, Malaysia, Newcastle Zealand?

HavfrueDenizKisi · 17/02/2025 14:11

Oh yeah @ByQuaintAzureWasp Thailand is a mere 9 hour flight and Kuala Lumpur 8 and a half. Just like flying to Europe from London. 😂

Australia cost of living is expensive and wages don't feel like they have caught up. DH is Aussie and we are in London. No plans to go and live there.

Cormoran · 17/02/2025 20:36

@ByQuaintAzureWasp I believe she said cheap flights.
And distance. Sydney is very far from everything . In Europe, you do have the ability to just go for a weekend in Barcelona, or to Venice for an exhibition with very little money and very little time.
I agree with every single word @StellaShining said. Sydney is vast. 30 min from Sydney means nothing given how big Sydney is.

Floraandfoliage · 19/02/2025 14:39

We have just spent the last week trying to figure out if we can move to Melbourne. We don’t think we can as we left it too late :(

DH can get a sponsored visa but it’s just a 4 year one. By the time he’s eligible for PR he’ll be 45! 😭

The jobs for us both out there are amazing. Pretty gutted tbh!

muminwestlnd · 20/02/2025 11:38

Cormoran · 17/02/2025 08:00

The very first point has to be , would you be allowed to move here. Are you a citizen or do you have to apply for a visa and which?
Then, what do you call near the sea?
Houses near the beaches are very expensive, and I mean very very expensive.
Cost of living has gone up so much in the last years. Even when you are used to it, it is still a shock to see kiwis costing $20.90/kg at woolies.
Fresh fruits and vegetables are very expensive compared to Europe. Junk is cheap.
Flight prices have jumped. Domestic and international. We are very lucky to have one flight per year paid by DH's work. We pay for the second flight home, and what we used to pay for business pre-covid is now the economy price if you have to travel during school holidays.
Weather is nice, but weather is nice in Italy, Spain, South of France as well.
Houses here are poorly build. There is no heating as one is used to in Europe. No radiators, it is air con or if you are lucky, a gas bayonet in the wall to which you attach a very expensive (+1200$) Rinnai heater.

Health system is a bit worse than continental Europe. Even when you have top private health care, you can't use it to see doctors such as Gp or specialists, or having imaging or testing done. Private health only covers in-hospital care. In Sydney, it is very hard to find a free GP (it is called bulk billing), you have out of pocket fees of roughly $45 and for specialist, the out of pocket will be several hundreds $. Private funds will cover extra such as dental, physio, glasses with varying degree of co-pay.

The main con, is how far you will be from everything and everyone. Just for fun, simulate the cost of 5 tickets to UK during typical school holidays.

Renting is expensive, buying even more.

As you see, there is a recurrent theme. The cost of living. That is something a family of 5 should consider. What is the point of moving here and end up in shitty suburbs because everything else is unaffordable.

You don't mention art and culture, which is good, because prices are ridiculous and options are very limited. And some weird reasons, they translate the operas played here, which annoys me beyond reason. Outdoor is free, but outdoor is free in Southern Europe too , with the added benefit that you can go skiing in Winter . Thredbo is a joke when you are used to the Dolomites.

A big pro, is how nice people are. And how safe it is. The safety of going for a swim and you bag is not taken the second you turn your head.
The ocean is nice but oh boy is the water cold. Except now. February and March are the best months for a swim.

I agree with many points. The houses are expensive in Sydney. However in UK, houses are even more expensive. For you to be able to see a specialist in the NHS will take anything from months to a year. We do get private healthcare if you work for a company but you need a referral and agreement from the healthcare provider. Eating out in the UK are also very expensive, a coffee is London is almost $10! I love to be able to find good coffee everywhere and it’s so cheap compared to London. The outdoor living is a dream if you have kids. The weather is nice in south Europe, but if you live in Surrey it’s not. Most people will have 4-5 weeks of holidays to enjoy Europe.

muminwestlnd · 20/02/2025 13:35

Happyinarcon · 17/02/2025 12:25

Remember that you won’t get to pop on a cheap half hour flight and be anywhere in Europe for the weekend. I have family in the UK and whenever i open facebook someone is in Greece or Spain. Europe is 2 flights and 20 hours away

It’s so easy and cheap if you don’t have kids. If you can only travel on school holidays you will spend £2,000 on flights only very easily.

muminwestlnd · 20/02/2025 13:41

HavfrueDenizKisi · 17/02/2025 14:11

Oh yeah @ByQuaintAzureWasp Thailand is a mere 9 hour flight and Kuala Lumpur 8 and a half. Just like flying to Europe from London. 😂

Australia cost of living is expensive and wages don't feel like they have caught up. DH is Aussie and we are in London. No plans to go and live there.

Do you have extended family in London? London is sooo expensive, eating out is a real treat. Just getting a coffee is £4,70 in London these days. Safety, House prices, please dont get me started. I want to find reasons to continue living in London but Sydney seems so much better. Do you mind me asking why did you move to Australia in the first place? And the reason you moved back? I would appreciate your views as we planning to move.

CoffeeFluff · 20/02/2025 16:09

Floraandfoliage · 19/02/2025 14:39

We have just spent the last week trying to figure out if we can move to Melbourne. We don’t think we can as we left it too late :(

DH can get a sponsored visa but it’s just a 4 year one. By the time he’s eligible for PR he’ll be 45! 😭

The jobs for us both out there are amazing. Pretty gutted tbh!

I don’t understand the issue here. Too late for what?

SophW89 · 20/02/2025 20:15

CoffeeFluff · 20/02/2025 16:09

I don’t understand the issue here. Too late for what?

My understanding is the cut off is under 45 but I could be wrong!

SophW89 · 20/02/2025 20:17

muminwestlnd · 20/02/2025 11:38

I agree with many points. The houses are expensive in Sydney. However in UK, houses are even more expensive. For you to be able to see a specialist in the NHS will take anything from months to a year. We do get private healthcare if you work for a company but you need a referral and agreement from the healthcare provider. Eating out in the UK are also very expensive, a coffee is London is almost $10! I love to be able to find good coffee everywhere and it’s so cheap compared to London. The outdoor living is a dream if you have kids. The weather is nice in south Europe, but if you live in Surrey it’s not. Most people will have 4-5 weeks of holidays to enjoy Europe.

Do you think the UK is more expensive to buy a house than Sydney ? Imagine it depends on where in the UK. London and Sydney probably more comparable than, say, the north east (where i am!)

muminwestlnd · 20/02/2025 21:02

SophW89 · 20/02/2025 20:17

Do you think the UK is more expensive to buy a house than Sydney ? Imagine it depends on where in the UK. London and Sydney probably more comparable than, say, the north east (where i am!)

Yes, London housing is more expensive than Sydney. So is most of things apart from food and clothes.

StellaShining · 20/02/2025 21:50

@SophW89 even within London and Sydney it would be hard to compare. All depends on where in those cities you want to live!

SophW89 · 20/02/2025 22:13

StellaShining · 20/02/2025 21:50

@SophW89 even within London and Sydney it would be hard to compare. All depends on where in those cities you want to live!

Very true!

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