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Violence against women

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Starlia · 28/10/2023 10:59

What can we do about the scourge of violence against women in this country?
Obviously there was the terrible death of Lilie James at the hands of a man she’d been seeing for five weeks.
Here in QLD, recently there was a high speed crash involving a number of cars in which three people died, at the hands of a man who was chasing his girlfriend. She died, one Good Samaritan died and another innocent party died.
Add to this, I’m listening to a podcast called Dying Rose about the suspicious deaths/murders of Indigenous women that are just not investigated properly and the families treated with contempt.
I am both sad and angry and I joust want to know, what can we do? Are there any answers?
Meanwhile my two teenage girls have told me that their male classmates idolise Andrew Tate. Which is even more depressing.
What can we do?

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Hoistupthemainsail · 28/10/2023 14:45

It's just awful. Lilie was my daughter's waterpolo coach at school and we are all devastated. I don't know what we can be doing but something needs to change.

TerrorAustralis · 29/10/2023 02:47

@Hoistupthemainsail I’m so sorry for you and your daughter. It must be utterly shocking for the whole school community.

Honestly, nothing is going to change until men start taking the lead on this. And not just anti-violence campaigners like Tarang Chawla. I mean just normal men, calling each others’ bad behaviour out in everyday situations. Teaching their sons how to treat women and positive attitudes towards women. Teaching their daughters that they have value beyond their relationships to men, and that they have a right to be treated well and respectfully by men.

Starlia · 29/10/2023 07:16

TerrorAustralis · 29/10/2023 02:47

@Hoistupthemainsail I’m so sorry for you and your daughter. It must be utterly shocking for the whole school community.

Honestly, nothing is going to change until men start taking the lead on this. And not just anti-violence campaigners like Tarang Chawla. I mean just normal men, calling each others’ bad behaviour out in everyday situations. Teaching their sons how to treat women and positive attitudes towards women. Teaching their daughters that they have value beyond their relationships to men, and that they have a right to be treated well and respectfully by men.

My DH is in a cyclist group of middle aged men. I know some of the men reasonably well. Married, kids, professionals and business owners.
I made the mistake of seeing a group chat between them once and it was disgusting. One who runs a business who called a female employee a slut for resigning. Lots of blow job jokes.
DH doesn’t participate but neither does he or indeed any of them object to the demeaning language they routinely use. Why is that? Why is it part of their everyday interactions?
I catch up with girlfriends fairly regularly and we honestly don’t talk about men much at all. Sure, there is an occasional whinge about a DH but that’s it.
I feel very despairing right now. I have two daughters and the idea that the most dangerous person in their lives will be someone they date or marry horrifies me.

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Starlia · 29/10/2023 07:17

Hoistupthemainsail · 28/10/2023 14:45

It's just awful. Lilie was my daughter's waterpolo coach at school and we are all devastated. I don't know what we can be doing but something needs to change.

I’m terribly sorry. What an awful shock for your community. It should never have happened.

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andyourpointiswhat · 31/10/2023 07:13

For anyone who works in the area it is absolutely depressing. In 15 years as a family mediator the percentage of cases involving family violence probably went from 10% to 90% and the vast majority was male to female violence. So many women wanting to leave a relationship with nowhere to go, so much abuse and coercive control from men. I quit in the end. The photos of that beautiful young woman, same age as my daughter, made me cry.

TheSandgroper · 31/10/2023 19:34

https://www.facebook.com/DestroyTheJoint

It’s awful. I keep checking here because I want them to get my clicks. And I don’t know what to do about it.

I know what needs to happen. Men need to speak up, to act against their mates and to be active in prevention but none of that will happen in sufficient strength.

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