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Knitting question: what does "slip 1" mean? And what does "kb1, p1" mean?

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TuttiFrutti · 07/11/2006 09:02

My pattern has a partial explanation for kb1, p1: it says this means "knit back into stitch on row below", but I can't understand this!

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puppydavies · 07/11/2006 09:11

not a v experienced knitter, but slip one means you just slide the stitch across to the rh needle without knitting or purling it.

not aure about their explanation for kb1 - i would take it to be knit into the back loop of the next stitch (i.e. make a standard knit stitch but ino the back rather than front loop). so you should prob wait for womeone who knows what they're talking about with that one.

when in doubt i head for knittinghelp.com (which has videos) or knitty.com which has good basic explanations of pretty much everything.

puppydavies · 07/11/2006 09:12

eek! sorry, spelling

fizzbuzz · 07/11/2006 09:48

I think, it means, instead of kitting the stitch, put needle through the back of the loop below this (on the row unerneath).
Have to say I am a really experienced knitter, but have not met this one before.

TuttiFrutti · 07/11/2006 19:47

So do I even touch the stitch I would normally knit? If not, doesn't this mean the garment would double in size? Or do I put the needle through both the normal stitch and then the stitch on the row below?

I wish I'd never started this pattern!

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tamum · 07/11/2006 19:50

I think it means knit into the back of the next stitch- if you knit into the row below it would have normally more specific instructions. I have seen patterns that do this but you usually knit below with the next stitch, otherwise as you say you would increase the number of stitches on each row.

fizzbuzz · 07/11/2006 20:24

Not sure if garment would double in size it may be part of the pattern. If you are knitting 2 stitches together, or slipping a stitch over another stitch in either current row, or row below or above then garment woudn't double in size. Basically are you counterbalancing increasing stitches by decreasing them elswhere.
( I know this sounds really complex!) As for the next stitch, I guess you purl it as in p1 re your instructions.
I have used patterns where this technique creates an all over pattern like in cable type garments.
What are you knitting? It sounds really interesting, my fingers are twitching away to do some.
Hope this helps, but it may just confuse you more!

themoon66 · 07/11/2006 20:28

I've not knitted for years and years. I spotted the thread title and couldn't resist having a look. Am really wanting to get knitting again now.

By the way... I think kb1 means Knit below one. But then, like I said, its flippin' years since I knitted so my memory may be vague.

tamum · 07/11/2006 21:04

Honestly, it means knit into the back of the stitch. There's a glossary here , but there are several saying the same thing. I agree that knitting into the stitch below can be part of a pattern, I've done it myself, it makes a knobbly kind of fabric, but it's always explained properly, so you have to include a stitch from the needle with it in some way.

Blandmum · 07/11/2006 21:06

I would read that as knit one into the back of the next stitch, then purl one

Slip one means you take the stitch and slip it on to the neddle in your right hand, without knitting or purling it IYSWIM.

tamum · 07/11/2006 21:07

Blimey, what are you doing on a knitting thread me old mucker?

tamum · 07/11/2006 21:07
Blandmum · 07/11/2006 21:08

Aye will have you know that I am quite a good knitter! I can do arren and everything!

And I do tapestry and cross stitch!

Blandmum · 07/11/2006 21:09

I'm teaching mitosis to the sixth form tomorrow. Again! God the last lesson was blody grim!

there is a thought , I should knit a chromosome with detatchable chromatids, Then they might bloody understand it!

NotQuiteCockney · 07/11/2006 21:14

Is the pattern online? kb1 normally means knit in the back of the next stitch.

Slip one means slip the stitch across without knitting it. Normally you slip purlwise, and with the current yarn behind the stitch, but it does depend on the pattern.

I'm going to use my foreigner exemption here to suggest that this doesn't really sound like a beginner's pattern, and maybe you'd be better off with something simpler? I say this as someone whose first two patterns are never worn, and one isn't even finished ...

zippy34 · 07/11/2006 21:22

Do the instructions maybe read kbl (letter L) rather than kb1 (number one)? In which case it would be knit into the back loop deffo.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 07/11/2006 21:23

I know a meaning for "slip 1" but its not a knitting terminology

fizzbuzz · 07/11/2006 21:39

Arrrrgh, this is so confusing! I used to be a bloody knitwear designer, and I have never been as confused as this.
What exactly are you knitting, and does it have a "texture" to it? If it does then it means knit into stitch below, but what you do with excess stitch now God only knows.
I have found some knitting patterns to be wrong (and sewing patterns for that matter), especially some of the more modern patterns. Have had to use my common sense on 2 of them.
I thought ktbs was the abbreviation for knitting through the back of a stitch.

tamum · 07/11/2006 21:40

Kb1 and kbl mean the same thing, knit into the back of the stitch.

Mb, what a fab idea- I still have the chlamydomonas my friend made me out of felt when we in the 6th form. You can always tell your 6th formers that you know some well-established geneticists who have managed to get by without ever being any good at mitosis

TuttiFrutti · 08/11/2006 13:49

It's definitely "Kb1", not "Kbl". It's a Debbie Bliss pattern for a child's fisherman rib jumper, although from the picture it doesn't look like a cable design. Hmmm...

Thanks for all your help. I will experiment with the knitting into stitch below and see what happens!

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NotQuiteCockney · 08/11/2006 13:58

There is a rib style that involves knitting into the stitch below and dropping the stitch above, to make a v deep rib. I think it's brioche stitch? Haven't got books in front of me. Don't think you normally purl in it. If it's the pattern I think it is, it looks like crap for a few rows then, in theory, settles down to look nice (all of it, including the first rows). But when I tried it, I got anxious and quit.

fizzbuzz · 08/11/2006 20:01

I had trouble with Debbie Bliss patterns not being clear.

TuttiFrutti · 09/11/2006 16:33

Yes fizzbuzz, I'm not impressed so far and won't be buying any of her books again!

Thanks NQC, I will give that a go on a dummy run and see what it looks like. Unfortunately I've already knitted a 4 inch edge, so don't want to risk ruining that on the real thing.

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tamum · 10/11/2006 19:08

TuttiFrutti, in spite of what I said before, if it's fisherman's rib then it will mean knitting into the stitch below, together with the one on the needle. There's a good explanation here . It's really bad that it wasn't explained in the pattern

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