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Sewing machine threads and zipper foots

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Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 08:23

I am looking to start sewing more regularly and I am hoping that some more experienced people can help me.

I have had problems with threads in the past getting jammed in my machine and snapping off constantly. My mum gave me this machine because she had the same problems. I switched to guttermann threads and the problems were decreased significantly. Are there any machine suitable threads as good as guttermann but less expensive?

Also: I have never been able to insert zips properly. I am keen to learn how to do zips so that I can sew a much wider range of things. Do I need a special zipper foot? I have an older Toyota machine and I am not sure that I will be able to get a zipper foot easily but I will do an internet search of I need one.

Thanks all.

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Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 11:03

Guterman thread is expensive, but the only thread that works on my machine.

Yes, you do need a zipper foot if you want to be successful with zips, so I would try to find one that is compatible with your machine.

Not much help maybe, so best of luck.

Inkspellme · 07/08/2014 11:18

usually if thread breaks on top thread its a problem with the bobbin underneath. the opposite is usually true as well. I don't know why but it's a rule that holds true in my quilt group.

Guttermann threads are excellent but all thread spools are designed to be unwound and used in a particular direction. There is writing on the gutterman spool. this needs to be on the bottom when the thread is on the machine. or as my friend remembers it " gutterman stands on it's head".

Thread breakage is reguraly a sign of wrong tension. I would suggest sitting down with your machine and using some scrap fabric start changing tension (bottom tension I would go for) and see if that helps.

Don't use old thread - it is far more inclined to break. Make sure the thread in your bobbin is the same as your top thread - modern machines really seem to prefer that.

Sorry I can't help with the zipper problem!

Orangeanddemons · 07/08/2014 11:24

Zips are a pain, you need a really narrow foot. I sometimes see them in like a seam. In industry they don't have such a thing as a zip foot, industrial machines just have one narrow foot and sew everything with that

Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 12:00

Thanks to everyone who has replied. I am going to look at the tension and see if that helps. I have some guttermann thread so will try with that. If it works okay I will buy a zipper foot otherwise I might need to buy a whole new machine.
My mum has a new machine and it isn't any better than the one she had given to me (still has puckering and thread breakage) so I think I should try and resolve the problem first.

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Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 12:13

Can you download the instructions for the machine from the internet? The try to follow them right from the start?

Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 13:07

I will try and find the instructions online and see if they help.

If they don't then I think I need a new machine. I am thinking if getting this one
www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/4602363.htm

I figure that by the time I buy a zipper foot and other bits and pieces it might be more economical to buy a new machine if it isn't going to work perfectly.

I can spend a little more if it gets a much better machine (don't want to go over £140). Does anybody have a machine that they would recommend?

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Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 13:58

I bought my Riccar 8500 -S in the 70s, but I don't think it is made any more.
To me it has been the most incredible machine and I made loads with it, including my daughter's wedding dress (needed a little bit of help with the organza and the contact points on the foot pedal had worn down. After they were mended it works perfectly again and I think I may go back to sewing soon.

Sewing machine threads and zipper foots
Sewing machine threads and zipper foots
Orangeanddemons · 07/08/2014 15:14

Ooh, a tip for sewing sheer fabrics is to put tissue paper on the seams. Works a treat as it stabilises the fabric. Then you just pull it out. And I always put in zips with masking tape.

Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 16:32

What is the masking tape and zip trick? Do you just stick it across the zip to hold it in place whilst you stitch it?

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Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 16:33

Those dresses are lovely dutchoma. I am hoping me can learn to sew half as good as you Smile

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Orangeanddemons · 07/08/2014 16:46

Yeah, place the zip in position and masking tape 2 or 3 strips horizontally across the back.

Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 18:06

Yes, normally I could have done it with or without tissue paper. But because the pedal was messing about, not going steady it was too hard. My ds' mil, who is a rained dressmaker helped me out. I will be forever grateful.

Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 18:06

'trained' not 'rained'

Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 18:41

I have now emptied the tray on the side of my sewing machine and discovered that I already have a zipper foot Blush . I haven't got a clue how to fit it though so am off to find a manual. If anybody has a manual for an ancient toyota 222 sewing machine I would much appreciate photos of the relevant page.

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Dutchoma · 07/08/2014 18:43

Have a look to see how the current foot is fitted. You need to take that off and put the zipper foot in its place.

Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 18:59

I had a look how the current foot is fitted but if I fit this one the same there will be a long bit sticking sideways out of the back of the foot. It is a two part foot and I'm not sure that the two parts are together in the correct way.
Trying to convince husband that it would be easier to buy a new machine Grinbut he thinks I should just get a manual or ask my mum when she comes over at the weekend (I didn't think she ever used the zipper foot).

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Missunreasonable · 07/08/2014 19:22

I have figured it out now and managed to find a manual online. Thanks everyone.

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3littlewomen · 07/08/2014 19:35

I would also suggest getting the machine serviced. I had my old frister and rossmann machine almost 30 years old. It was serviced and the the tension was set correctly - it was like a new machine. I was also able to buy accessories and feet for the machine (like you I had feet I didn't know I had until I downloaded a manual). In the end I did upgrade to a lovely pfaff with the dual feet (fab system). I would recommend servicing new machine, seeing how you go and then slowly looking into a new dream machine over time (got mine for my 40th)

EATmum · 08/08/2014 18:28

If you do end up getting a new machine, I've had lovely service at John Lewis recently. As well as quite detailed advice based on how I would use it, I'm booked in tomorrow (about a month later) for a sewing lesson. So having had a chance to play with it, I'm looking forward to find out all the bits I didn't manage to work out by myself.
Ridiculously excited about this actually. Not sure what that says about me!

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