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NotQuiteCockney · 27/01/2006 10:28

Ok, new pictures, photobucket.com/albums/c176/NotQuiteCockney/?sc=6 . I like both new hats, although the photos are rubbish. (Am I not holding the camera still?)

Not sure what to do next, am slightly uninspired. Thinking about tubular knitting? DH has a colleague whose wife is having a baby, so I should do one for them ...

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NotQuiteCockney · 28/01/2006 18:39

Oh, meant to say, tamum, that shawl looks really lovely - can you do us a closeup when it's blocked, too?

I keep finding myself staring at people's hats, jumpers, whatever, when we're out and about. There are loads of startling hats out there - I saw one today with (I think) intarsia earmuffs on top.

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bundy · 28/01/2006 18:39

speaking of hats, have just finished an earflap one which was originally adult in bigwool, but did it in chunky print & it turned out great for baby of friend

NotQuiteCockney · 28/01/2006 18:39

Oh, how do you do earflaps? Was it knitted in the round?

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tamum · 28/01/2006 18:40

NQC, I'm sorry you have bad news
I'm sure you can sand, as bundy says (are you bundly BTW?- the socks sound fab), and then wax them or something.

Pruni, blocking is when you make your knitting damp, or completely wet for lace, and then pin it out to the size it's meant to be and leave it to dry. It's essential for lace because it always looks very puckered when it's just been knitted, but you can block it to just about any size and it will be lovely and flat. In theory. You can but boards and wires and things but I just use the carpets and some pins

NotQuiteCockney · 28/01/2006 18:42

tamum, bundy is talking about this thread.

I think mom used to block on towels. Also iron knits between towels.

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tamum · 28/01/2006 18:46

Oh NQC I am so, so sorry. I completely missed that thread but I was just beginning to realise when you said about your mum being a knitwear designer. She was the same age as my mum.

Gillian76 · 29/01/2006 00:10

NQC sorry to hear your sad news

Love all the pics of your knitting, girls. Very inspiring

I have 2 questions...

  1. Is it worth getting the stitch n Bitch book(s) if I have been knitting for a while and know most of the basic stitches? Not sure about this "Continental" knitting, tho!

  2. I have been doing a sweater for DD2 (Hula Hula in Miss Bea's Dressing Up if anyone has it) and it's got a band of intarsia flowers all round. Some of the stitches look "baggy". How can I stop this and will it improve with pressing?

Pruni · 29/01/2006 06:49

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NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 06:49

Thanks, Gillian.

  1. Not sure. You might prefer Montse Stanley, which has a lot more information in it, but involves a lot less handholding.

  2. I don't really do intarsia, but the stitches may improve when you sew in? Maybe the ends are a bit loose? Otherwise, you can fiddle with them with a crochet hook, to spread around the looseness.

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Gillian76 · 29/01/2006 08:37

Yes, can do cabling and intarsia (although with limited success, it seems! Will see what it's like when I've sewn in the ends). I was wondering if it goes into adapring and/or writing your own patterns. Never done that before.

Also this Continental knitting is intriguing me, Do many of you use this technique and how does it compare?

NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 09:20

If you're happy with English knitting (have a good yarn hold, things are going well), then it's probably not worth trying continental/German style. It's just a different way of doing the basic stitches - you hold the yarn in your left hand, and pick it up with the right needle, rather than holding the yarn in your right hand, and throwing it around the needle.

German-style is better for: circular knitting. Knitting is easier, but purling is, in theory, harder. I find German-style better for everything.

I find it totally easy to make up my own patterns. Once you know the basic shape of a garment, changing it a bit, or adding a pattern or texture, is really easy, particularly if you're ok at arithmetic. But I only really do flat simple things, and hats. I expect sweaters to be harder - tamum has made her own sweaters.

It's also much harder to write out a pattern, properly. I wrote out one of my hats (the butterfly one) for someone from MN, and rather than a nice tidy "do this, do this, do this" pattern, it was a long discursive letter on how to work it with whatever yarn you had etc. But then, I'd rather have the idea of a hat, than specific instructions for a specific yarn, as I always buy yarn first then figure out what I want to do with it. So I always have to adapt etc.

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tamum · 29/01/2006 09:54

Gillian76, I think your intarsia will look a bit better about pressing, but I have never completely solved the problem of looseness around the edges of the pattern like that. As far as books go, I bought SnB Nation because it has a chapter in it about designing your own garments but I didn't find it very good, and actually I don't like any of the patterns, so it was a real waste of money. The original SnB might be a bit basic, as the others have said, but if you like any of the patterns then it would be worth getting- I really like the opening chpaters and there's lots of useful information in it, although not as in depth as Montse Stanley.

For designing, I have a book called Sweater Design in Plain English by Maggie Righetti which is good, but so detailed that you have to read endlessly before you could really begin anything. I found Ann Budd's Handy Book of Sweater Patterns the best thing to start with as she gives the bare bones of patterns for all sizes and tensions which you can then adapt. I have only done very basic patterns of my own and actually couldn't begin to do the things that NQC does!

NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 10:07

tamum, you obviously haven't made lots of hats, otherwise you'd understand how easy hats are to design and make! Really, really, the ones I do require a basic grasp of arithmetic and a good collection of Barbara W. Walker books!

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tamum · 29/01/2006 10:12

No, that true, I can only think of one I made recently, and that was my first (and last) experience of knitting with beads, so maybe that has coloured my ideas

NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 10:17

I never see beads for knitting with, in the shops, so haven't tried it. SnB makes it sound easy.

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Filyjonk · 29/01/2006 14:37

Right, can someone (like NQC) explain what slipped stitch ribbing is please? It sounds funky.

Filyjonk · 29/01/2006 14:42

Oh re beads, I've made a few bits and pieces with beads. Basically just buy regular small glass beads and put some nail varnish on the end of your wool, let it dry, then thread the beads on. Or you can use a really thin piece of wool with your main wool and thread onto that. Or just stitch them on of course. The first way is least fiddly imo.

NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 15:00

Slipped stitch ribbing is a sort of ribbing that uses slipped stitches. Slipped stitches are (generally) when, instead of knitting a stitch, you just slip it from one needle to the other, purlwise. This can produce some interesting effects and textures, without a lot of complicated work. (FYI the multicolour hat on my link was done using slipstitch, rather than intarsia or fairisle. Oh, and the butterfly hat uses slipped stitch, but with yarn in front.)

The particular slipstitch rib I use is a 3x2 rib (3 knits, 2 purls, on the right side), with the middle knit stitch slipped on every other row. You keep the working yarn behind the needles while slipping the stitch (in this case). It makes the rib a lot deeper. It's my personal favourite rib.

So in proper knitting instructions:

CO a multiple of 5 stitches + 2.
R1 (wrong side): k2 p3 k2
R2 (right side): p2 k1 sl1 wyib k1 p2

R1 and 2 make the pattern.

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NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 15:51

Damn, Montse Stanley is good. I've decided to make a starburst knitted-from-the-top hat, following Barbara G. Walker. But how do I cast on? Monste the Mad has specific instructions for medallion type work, knitted out from the centre. Ok, I don't understand her instructions, but I'm sure I'll work it out.

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tamum · 29/01/2006 19:00

The woman rocks, doesn't she.

Finllyjonk, I didn't find it a hassle threading the beads on the yarn, I just found it hard to make the stitches have just the right tension around the bead. I was using very fine angora-y wool though, I think it would have been easier with something less slippy.

NotQuiteCockney · 29/01/2006 21:54

And I now have the knack of this new cast on! Ok, it took a lot of peering and thinking and fiddling, but I think I have it. I did all the stitches, but they were messy, so I will try again, but still ...

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Filyjonk · 30/01/2006 07:36

oh, tension wasn't really a problem, hmmm. I've used angora, silk, thin cotton and cashmerno aran wih beads...don't think I did anthing different, tbh. I'll have a think.

Filyjonk · 30/01/2006 07:38

Thanks for that explaination, nqc, will try it. I'm thinking a nice beaded tank top for dd...hmmm...

NotQuiteCockney · 30/01/2006 07:56

And the baby this hat I'm just starting has inconsiderately already been born! What is up with babies at the moment?

I think it will be a pale green + grey chevrony sort of hat. Knitted from the top, though.

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bundy · 31/01/2006 10:25

ncq sorry for delay - the flaps are done one at a time, the hat is knitted in one piece then has a small seam (I know you hate sewing up) at the back. would you like the pattern? xxx