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*Trigger warning - sexual abuse* To feel really weird about what my boss said?

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Whatstepnext2 · 25/01/2023 19:28

I've worked at my place of work for a while and get on well with my boss. She has weird opinions but she probably thinks that some of my opinions are weird too.

We were talking today about an old family friend of hers that recently got in touch. She said this friend had a daughter who was SA by the father (this woman's DH) She then said "but the daughter was asking for it, she wanted daddy issues" So I asked how old this girl was and she said early teens. I must have looked shocked because she then started to try and justify it saying that the girl was a handful and became a rebel later on life who had a baby at 15 (not the dads apparently). So I said I'm not surprised if she was SA by her dad! She then said that the mum knew and it was made into a big thing. I just couldn't get my head around what she was saying and I just turned back to my desk and carried on working. I now feel really weird around her and I don't know if this is justified.

She made a comment a while ago about a teacher in the local area who was found to be messaging a girl online "that she was a teenager, not a child, and it's a very grey area as most teenagers are consensual at that age" but she was talking to someone on the phone and not directly to me so couldn't comment.

I feel like it's ruined my relationship with her now as I can't believe her opinion on it

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Meowmama · 25/01/2023 21:06

My take exactly but I met a girl like that so I'm biased.

ThreeLittleDots · 25/01/2023 21:18

That feeling in the pit of your stomach is literally revulsion, because her opinions are revolting.

She has created an offensive environment which is unacceptable.

Smineusername · 25/01/2023 21:18

I think she is indirectly and perhaps unconsciously using this story to reveal something very personal about herself to you. Whether it is that she has been abused or experienced incest or not I can't say, but something very sexually wounding has clearly happened to her and in her mind 'young girls' have been scapegoated for it (maybe someone left her for a younger girl?) In revealing this wound she is crossing a professional boundary, and worse, the indirect means of the disclosure leaves you in the uncomfortable position of having to imagine what the nature of the offense might be, and inevitably fearing the worst interpretation, that she is actually letting you know she is an active paedophile. It is difficult either to forget this and brush over it, or to address it, so you are caught in a tricky position if you want to continue to have a human relationship with her. I think I would wait for the right moment to raise my own/a friend's story of how hurtful abuse is for a vulnerable child, how all children deserve to be protected and stood up for, and see what that opens up. As in, use the same indirect approach to speak directly to the wounded part of her and let her know you know she didn't deserve it. But a very tricky one

MillenialAvocado · 25/01/2023 21:25

YANBU, this is disgusting. I would be deeply disturbed by this. She should've reported this stuff to the police. I would find a new job, I wouldn't be able to work with someone after that, let alone be managed by them.

Casilero · 25/01/2023 21:45

007DoubleOSeven · 25/01/2023 20:34

The op's boss is not necessarily the most senior person and nor the op mention a lack of HR department

She says there's no one higher though, which I take to mean it's a small business, with this woman as an owner manager?

I'm not disagreeing with you that it's not something you'd normally report, it just sounds in this instance that there's no one to report it to?

Casilero · 25/01/2023 21:50

But yes I would definitely have a problem with working alongside someone who'd made these comments and would be looking to leave.

Hope it doesn't sound like I'm excusing or minimising what's she's said, because it's absolutely vile. Really fucking vile.

MissWings · 25/01/2023 21:51

God she’s a fucking weirdo and I haven’t really got anything else to say on the matter. I would be looking for another job as i could not work for a peadophile sympathiser.

bonzaitree · 25/01/2023 21:53

Agree with PP I think this is deeply disturbing. discussing this sort of thing in the workplace is so very inappropriate.

I think there are two ways to go with this.

Firstly you could try and explain to her about abuse and say what she has said is wrong etc.

Or you could go grey rock- just stick to work talk and don’t talk about personal issues at all.

You could also opt to actively stop her talking if she ever mentions anything like this again “I don’t think we should discuss this in work”.

Up to you.

determinedtomakethiswork · 25/01/2023 23:08

It's incredibly disturbing. Thank goodness she doesn't have any children.

Is she is the owner of the business? If she isn't, I think you should speak to someone higher up in confidence. If she is, I would be looking for a new job.

Whatstepnext2 · 26/01/2023 07:29

Baring in mind this is the same person who, when an employee of the company had a prem baby that had severe complications, she said "it would have been better for them if they had just aborted it because he has now lost so much money and got into debt because of this" because the employee had so much time off work to be by his wife's side.

I'm going to think about my next step today. I was looking for a new job anway. I'm really uncomfortable about it

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BridgetsBigPants · 26/01/2023 07:48

Yuck. No advice but you have my sympathy. I had a similar conversation with a co worker at a previous job. Although in this case the young girl discussed was a friend of her daughter and abused by a local school bus driver, not her father. It actually made me feel ill and I lost all respect for my co worker. It just leaves you with such an unpleasant feeling that a grown adult can somehow scape goat a vulnerable kid like that.

Whatstepnext2 · 26/01/2023 15:06

OK so I took some of your advice and when she spoke about it again (saying that the daughter is now claiming the uncle had also assaulted her and doesn't speak to any of the family) I asked her if she was genuinely surprised by that considering that she had been SA by her father and her reply was "that has never been confirmed or proven, that was just her word against his" so I said I take it you believe the father then and she said "she was a very promiscuous girl and if anything did happen between the father ans now the uncle it was because of the way she was" so I said her view made me very uncomfortable and I wasn't prepared to listen to it anymore.

To conclude, from that response I think she is, like another poster suggested, from an era that victim blames. I don't feel she has ever been SA herself. From her other opinions - I think she is just an arse!

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