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To think this is inappropriate homework for an 11 year old? **MNHQ adding content warning for CSA**

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ProwlingD · 19/06/2023 19:14

I run a homework club once a week from my home where I oversee and assist students with their homework. This afternoon, one of my 11 year old students (year 7) brought this short story. She had to read it and then write a summary of what the story was about, how she thinks the characters felt etc.

After she had read it and written her summary, I then read it and was shocked at what the story is about / is suggesting. Her summary was completely wrong - she read the story as one of a happy step family - and I didn't feel it appropriate to explain to her what the story is actually suggesting. I then showed it to my DP (he is not in education) and he also felt it was inappropriate.

I'm am English Literature teacher (but left working in schools a couple of years ago) and I am not easily shocked or surprised by the texts my students are reading. Had this been a student in KS4 I would have felt them mature enough to explain the connotations, but 11 seems far too young.

AIBU to think 11 is too young to be getting this as homework?

To think this is inappropriate homework for an 11 year old? **MNHQ adding content warning for CSA**
To think this is inappropriate homework for an 11 year old? **MNHQ adding content warning for CSA**
OP posts:
Changington · 20/06/2023 11:59

When you read the collection of short stories in it's entirety with a grown adult's mind, it's actually very interesting and well written.

The ways that the children and abusers both justify the situation and tell themselves "it's not that bad", "they probably won't even remember" when we, the reader, know different is very hard to read but sadly quite common amongst survivors and perpetrators. It's important to understand these mindsets so they can be challenged and the truth of the impact acknowledged.

Then the story has a somewhat positive ending where you learn that at least 2 of the perpetrators have been brought to justice, though of course we can never know the true impact. But it does give it an element of closure which the first extract does not have, it ends with a feeling of dread.

As a short, individual piece it is completely inappropriate for school. Perhaps as a full piece it could be OK for older students.

CurlewKate · 20/06/2023 12:02

@TheGrimSqueakersFlea "We read similar in school at that age. Grooming happens and children need to learn the warning signs

Interesting. Can you remember the texts you studied?.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/06/2023 19:36

I've tried to re-report the thread and it won't let me @HopeMumsnet

Dressydress · 20/06/2023 19:42

To be honest I don't think that has a place in school at any age. Especially as unfortunately this may have happened to a student and I don't like this word particularly as its used so much, but 'Triggering'.

LaMaG · 20/06/2023 19:49

steevanseegall · 19/06/2023 21:56

Is it possible that this exercise was intended as a "screening tool," to discover whether or not any of the children in that group have experienced sexual abuse?

That's utterly batshit. Don't be so ridiculous.

I think @Quz makes a good point though? It's written so well it could read either as very innocent or very sinister depending on the innocence of the reader. If an 8 yr old understood the meaning then wouldn't that be a red flag? I'd be interested to know at what age a normal (ie not abused) child would understand the subtext.

Ohhelpicantthinkofaname · 20/06/2023 19:58

Jeez. Lucky it went over the kids head. Maybe from year 10 up that would be appropriate but definitely not for a year 7 pupil.

pinkginfizz9 · 20/06/2023 20:11

Far too much for an 11 year old and the sexual content will go above the heads of most of them, unless perhaps they are in the same situation.
I think the only explanation is teh reacher hadnt actually read it themselves

Marmablade · 20/06/2023 20:41

Often on MN you see 'is this inappropriate' and it's usually 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

But this is categorically unacceptable for an 11 year old. My DC is nearly that age and I cannot think how awful that kind of homework would be for them. And also Y7+ homework broadly speaking is usually done without an adult (apart from your club) and so the student would have no one to talk to about this. Utterly unacceptable.

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 21/06/2023 08:23

@CurlewKate No, it was the early 90s so quite a long time ago. The area I grew up in had a lot of problems, we were taught about abuse, drugs and alcohol from 11/12 because most of us had already been exposed to them.

Quz · 21/06/2023 23:43

The greatest % (some estimates as high as 70%) of children who are sexually abused will have been sexually abused before they are 12 years old. If the point is to teach them what to look out for so that it doesn't happen to them, by the time they are 11 you are too late.

It seems as though a lot of folks here think that children shouldn't be taught about childhood sexual abuse. How are they going to protect themselves from being abused if they don't realize that what someone (usually someone they love; more likely the younger they are) is asking them to do is wrong? They don't have to be given the gory details, but if they are old enough to start asking where babies come from, they are old enough to start hearing about the difference between adults physically expressing love with each other, and adults expressing "love" with children.

To answer the question that @LaMaG pondered...The way this is written, it would only be recognized for what it is by a child who had experienced something similar (no matter their age), or a child that had been taught that this is one of the tactics that adults use to encourage sexual behavior in children.

Thelnebriati · 22/06/2023 12:57

So why set it as homework? Home is often where the abusers live.

JFC people. This is not how we teach about abuse. This is not how schools should be 'screening' for abused children, whatever thats supposed to mean.

nothingcomestonothing · 22/06/2023 20:55

@ProwlingD the thread is 7 pages long, are you planning to come back at all?

Quiverer · 23/06/2023 08:44

Have you discussed this with the parents, OP?

ProwlingD · 23/06/2023 17:05

I discussed my concerns with the parents, they were rightfully shocked and assured me that they are going to speak to the school. I have no connection to the school (other than I assist some of the students that attend there in a private setting).

I suspect that the teacher did not read the text herself and it was on a list of 'approved' books. It's published by Amnesty International, so it seems quite innocent and legitimate on the face of it. I definitely think the recommended reading age of 12+ is far too young, I would say 14+ as a minimum.

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ChickenRat · 24/06/2023 11:29

Glad you've spoken to the parents OP

Olderandolder · 24/06/2023 11:48

What happens in the end?

When my son was 7 he brought home a reading scheme book about a girl being bullied for being a witch.

I was horrified. Then I thought about it. That would never happen to my son and I’d really have rathered he didn’t read about it. However he didn’t seem to be impacted.

How would that book play to:
a) a girl being bullied for being a witch. On the end the bullies were shamed and it stopped. A story of hope telling the girl this is not ok and she should speak to someone.
b) a child bullying another for being a witch. Again this tells the child it is not ok and he should stop.

Both good things.

We underestimate how children perceive totally wrong behaviour as normal simply because it is normal in their experience and in their circles.

I don’t know the stats on abuse like this. There may be many children reading it and realising for the first time that they are not alone and it’s not ok to be treated this way.

As OP said, the eleven year old who is not being abused didn’t get it and wasn’t disturbed.

A child’s summary of this book may be the first sign to anyone that the child is being abused.

Olderandolder · 24/06/2023 11:51

Strawberrydelight78 · 19/06/2023 20:07

It's a bit of a weird book to be discussing in class. But it does happen in real life it happened to me. It might actually help some children realise it's wrong and to open up to someone about it. Also empathy discussing how you could help someone in that situation and what might happen. Like it or not child abuse happens and sadly some of the children reading will have experienced a lot worse.

This.

I’m sorry you suffered @Strawberrydelight78

You are right that this book may help a child who is suffering.

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