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To dread this company charity day?

119 replies

PawsAndReflection · 08/09/2023 01:03

I think it's ridiculous!

Our company have just signed up for the Parks Challenge in London and everyone has merrily been discussing how much fun it will be to spend the day doing this rather than being in the office. It's not optional, and I seem to be the only one to have read the actual details.

It's 10 to 12 hours of non stop walking, and the kit list is over 30 items long. I know some of you will think I'm just a miserable old cow (and I am) but I really hate that we all have to do this whether we like it or not.

We also have to fundraiser a minimum of £300 each in the next 4 weeks, so I'm also dreading having to cajole loved ones into giving me money for something I wouldn't do in my worst nightmare.

I mentioned to some of my coworkers how long this 'walk' is and they all suddenly seemed a lot less excited about it- just seems like the latest corporate wankery to hit our office.

I've already booked the day off in order to avoid it, but AIBU to feel slightly irritated that I'm losing a day of annual leave in order to avoid this complete hell fest?!

OP posts:
sashh · 09/09/2023 02:31

Actually I think with the HASAWA you can refuse to do anything you believe will be damaging to your health. I'd have to look it up to be sure.

TheWayofBeing · 09/09/2023 09:50

No I agree. I would say no. Mostly because I'm not buying kit out of my own money.

That's not company charity that's then enforcing their tax break on you. Ask them to contribute to the kit or say no.

You say it's mandatory... they can't fire you for not shelling out on something they're demanding.

TheWayofBeing · 09/09/2023 10:01

Veracity23 · 09/09/2023 01:57

Let me guess.

It was HR or some bright eyed bushy tailed blue eyed new hire with wealthy parents who came up with this latest exclusionary corporate wankery. I utterly despise the fact we're in this part of the work cycle. I also end up taking time off when it's AwayDay season though I bloody well resent it and every year despise HR that little bit more. I'm not anti social nor do I have an issue with teamwork but I really loathe having to pretend people I dislike. Your company has the added tone deafness of the £300 "donation". All so they can claim tax back for the company no doubt.

So don't. Just say no. It's as much of a message to take AL as to just say no thanks - that's not my job.

BarbaraofSeville · 09/09/2023 10:09

TheWayofBeing · 09/09/2023 09:50

No I agree. I would say no. Mostly because I'm not buying kit out of my own money.

That's not company charity that's then enforcing their tax break on you. Ask them to contribute to the kit or say no.

You say it's mandatory... they can't fire you for not shelling out on something they're demanding.

Well they wouldn't let me do it as I wouldn't be bringing the compulsory waterproof over trousers or hiking boots for a walk through London.

Allyliz · 09/09/2023 10:21

I would be sending management an email stating that as this is not included in your contract and unless they will be purchasing all the necessary equipment for you you will be working in the office as per normal.. they sound like utter arses

HilariousHare · 09/09/2023 13:55

A hard NO from me. The reasons you could give to HR/Manager regarding your concerns for attendance (non attendance) at the event:

  • Health concerns - The London Royal Parks Challenge is graded as tough. You should begin training 4-6 months prior to the challenge (this should have been organised by your employer in advance).
  • Health & Safety - It is the employers responsibility to provide you with any personal protective and safety equipment free of charge, and given they are trying to make it mandatory this expense remains with them.
  • Risk Assessment - Speak to the HR department with regard to the risk assessment that has been conducted for this event, and ascertain that if you were to sustain any injuries, making you unable to attend work (feet, ankles, heart attack, sun stroke etc.) due to this 'Mandatory' work that you would receive full pay during your absence as it was a direct result of their decision making.
  • The £300 fundraising is for the £45 non-refundable registration fee (already paid by the company hence why they are making it mandatory to attend?) + the pledge to raise a minimum of £250 sponsorship. (Charlie Waller Trust Walk).
  • Your company is looking for free PR, paid by you the employee in equipment and fundraising, to promote them.

Basically ask a lot of difficult questions with regard to the event and focus on the negatives that could result in forcing people of varying fitness levels to comply especially if they don't carry out a risk assessment, the information on the website should be provided as it clearly states 4-6 months training and it is 'tough'. Make it about compensation and pay should some unfortunate event occur and the possibility of a civil claim. The point is to make them wonder what it 'might' cost THEM. You have after all only been given minimal information and it would be natural for you to enquire.

Daffodilwoman · 09/09/2023 14:04

Yanbu at all.
I like walking but this is a strong no.
How on earth can they enforce this?
Wrong on all levels.
Yet again, another totally stupid idea thought up by management.
Is this another team building event?
Why not just give everyone the day off? Or just offer this for those who want it but without pressure.

HilariousHare · 09/09/2023 14:23

Sorry, forgot to mention:

It might also be worth mentioning that you intend to do a JustGiving fundraiser online to collect payments, that your friends and family can contribute to directly, as an easier way to collect in promised monies. The funds go directly to the Charity, bypassing cash being given to your Company/Employer. Might also be worth mentioning this to other employees as a way to fundraise via Social media. If they/you do collect physical cash then it can easily be donated via the same link to boost it. If the Company is relying on the fundraising money to cover the initial Registration Fees then they could end up out of pocket......might prevent them from doing the same again for other events.

scotslass76 · 09/09/2023 14:25

I cannot believe the company has done this. What if you don't do the fundraising? They can't penalise you surely? I'd be taking the day off sick though I think. It sounds ridiculous - I hope they rethink!

BashfulClam · 09/09/2023 15:52

At my work many people did the Kilt walk, there was a full26 miles, shorter 13 miles and a wee wander that was much shorter. It was completely voluntary and sponsorship was a team effort. So you sponsored the whole team rather than all the participants. The hardcore group who did 26 miles didn’t take a full barrel of shit or kit with them. They dressed appropriately for Scotland, wore decent walking shoes/boots etc and did it in about 8-9 hours. The majority did the half kilt.

Baldieheid · 09/09/2023 17:03

No charity event is mandatory. Even those working for the bloody charity itself cannot be forced to go on a 4k walk, never mind a 40k walk. That's ridiculous.

You're not in jail on hard labour. Your job is your job, anything else beyond essential training is optional. I'd like to see them try to force it. H & S will roast their arses.

Kazzybingbong · 09/09/2023 19:31

RunningUpThatBuilding · 08/09/2023 01:39

This is a classic case of some twat in management having a "great idea" and not fully thinking it through.

I'd not be using a day of annual leave to avoid this and I sure as hell wouldn't be doing it either!

  • it's ablist - does your company have access to everyones medical records and know 100% this is a reasonable ask? I'm autistic and the idea of being surrounded by hundreds of people participating in forced fun completely freaks me out
  • are the company acutely aware of my financial information to be assured in a cost of living crisis I can afford to buy the necessary equipment?
  • is there an assumption that my friends/family can afford to sponsor me? The idea of asking for money during these difficult times strikes me as inappropriate.
  • are my working hours in line with this event? What about childcare or those with caring responsibilities?

It would be a hard no from me.

Edited

Alllll of this. I’d be absolutely refusing based on all of the above reasons.

IndysMamaRex · 10/09/2023 08:39

Exactly where in your contract do it say you have to take part? And even if there is some crap about attending events you can argue that this request is completely unreasonable.

Don’t waste annual leave just refuse to attend. Stick sponsorship form up in the office & that can be your attempt at raising money bit so they can’t say you made no attempt.

Have you or anyone in your office got any health conditions that could be used to raise that this event is not considerate of poor health etc. This sound like an event for the ultra fit not the average person who wasn’t expecting to have to take part.

smileyI · 10/09/2023 08:54

I would say I’ll come and support but I’m not taking part.

Blough · 10/09/2023 09:28

OP? Not bothering to reply?

suwatts · 10/09/2023 17:54

Ive done one of these. It’s very challenging and in fact cut it short so I ended up at the finish but didn’t do the whole route.

LT1982 · 10/09/2023 18:28

Yanbu. My corporate firm is always trying to force this CSR stuff on us.

I signed à contract to work in a law firm, not climb mountains 🤣

Trudiemans122 · 12/09/2023 12:57

YANBU

I wouldn't be able to undertake that sort of activity due to health problems, and while technically speaking it's a walk in the park, metaphorically it isn't.

I'm going to disagree slightly with people who have said you shouldn't book annual leave.

I have sometimes been the person left behind minding the shop while others do a "fun" activity, and it's not fun. The company's customers expect the same level of service regardless of however many people are in work on any day. Chances are that even the idiot who came up with the plan did realise that some won't be able to participate, and is relying on them to hold the fort. Good on you for foiling that plan!

Enjoy your time off. And don't feel guilty.

Greenpolkadot · 20/02/2024 22:43

Obviously organized by some fitness freak who has no kids and who has sod all else to do at a weekend..
I'd be bogging them right off..!!

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