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Buoyancy aid for schoolchild

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Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 10:46

Hi, name-changed and posting here for traffic.

DD is aged 11 and is small for her age. Her school have organised a school tour taking place in a couple of weeks time. It's the first one in a while because of Covid so I'd like her to go. However, the planned activities include a visit to a large swimming pool/funworld. Lots of waterslides and wave machines and so on. The problem is DD can't swim and I am worried about her ability in the water. (She has done lessons in the past, but hasn't got very far. She does enjoy being in the pool.) Usually she is very closely supervised in the water, but I feel the supervision won't be as good here. Obviously there will be lifeguards present, but the teachers won't be in the pool with the children or anything like that. I have been to this pool before and it is a very noisy and chaotic (and fun!) environment.

What should I do? Do I allow her go? Are there arm bands/swim jackets/buoyancy aids that could help? I do know that we need to work on her swimming. It is a priority now, but I'm looking for some short-term advice.
Thank you.

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Sprig1 · 26/04/2022 12:56

I don't know why there is even a discussion about it. Of course she shouldn't go if she can't swim, sad as it will make her. I can't believe that the school's risk assessment for the trip would allow non-swimmers in the pool anyway.

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:04

I checked the website and the pool asks non-swimmers to wear arm bands @GriddleScone. I'm not sure if they would prevent someone drowning? A pp said you'd need an actual life-jacket to prevent this? One of my problems is that I'm not at all sure how much arm bands actually help. (Another is getting her to wear them.)

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Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:08

Thanks @Sprig1. I don't know how much of a risk assessment the school will do.

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arethereanyleftatall · 26/04/2022 13:18

I wouldn't let her go.

The risk is far far too high.

Even with a bouyoncy aid, you risk her ditching it to blend in.

This is a massive incentive for her though to, one you can organise it, properly learn to swim.

I would say - you will take her and quite a few of her friends to the same park ONCE she's learnt to swim instead.

Just10moreminutesplease · 26/04/2022 13:32

I think the school would be really negligent to allow a non swimmer into a pool with waves/slides etc. As a mum there is no way I’d risk it.

She could easily get into trouble and drowning rarely looks how you’d expect it to, meaning it’s completely feasible that no one else in the pool would notice that she wasn’t ok until it’s too late.

Could she go on the trip and sit the pool out?

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:36

I'm not sure if she can go on the trip and sit out the pool part, of if she will have to miss the entire day if we choose not to do the pool. I need to check that with the school.

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luxxlisbon · 26/04/2022 13:39

She cannot go to a pool with friends, mucking about in the water and on slides without being able so swim.
Im sure it will suck for her because she wants to go but it would be reckless to allow her.

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:43

Yes, I agree it would be reckless. Thanks for the sanity check. I know she will fight me on this and I have form for being a worrier too.

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sickofthisnonsense · 26/04/2022 13:48

She's 11. She knows she can't swim.
She isn't ND.
She knows the pool
I think you need to trust her own judgement a bit here.
I doubt she will be the only non swimmer

She can stay in areas where she can reach the floor.
If the teachers are aware they will keep a close eye on her.

HoraThird · 26/04/2022 13:51

I cannot believe the school would allow a child who cannot swim to participate in this part of the trip without something like a buoyancy aid or 121close supervision from an adult? Surely they will have carried out a risk assessment for the trip?

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:53

She doesn't really know the pool though. We were there a couple of times years ago while on holiday, but she is too young to remember this.

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Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 13:54

I'll have to ask with regard to the risk assessment.

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Fluffruff · 26/04/2022 13:58

I’d be anxious about this. We’ve just come back from a water park on the continent. The lifeguards were 💯 on it and any child who couldn’t swim had a tag on their wrist which stopped them getting on certain slides. The reason being some slides drop you into deepish water and especially being a bit dizzy and disorientated you must be able to swim to get out. Can you look at the centre’s website and see their rules because they may have a guide about which slides are open to non swimmers (at the place we recently went there were plenty my not great swimming 7yr old could go on so long as he was with an adult but the rides you have to go down solo he wasn’t allowed).

lunar1 · 26/04/2022 13:59

Absolutely no way a non-swimmer should be in a pool like that without an adult in there focusing on them. Lifeguards are amazing but can't see everything.

I was in your daughters position and missed out on a lot because my parents didn't make sure I could swim, but this trip really isn't the time to experiment with it.

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 14:17

I'm certainly feeling very guilty I didn't ensure she could swim well before now.

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 26/04/2022 14:27

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 14:17

I'm certainly feeling very guilty I didn't ensure she could swim well before now.

Lots of kids can't swim. Money, time, transport to lessons etc. Around here it can be easier to get unicorn riding lessons than swimming lessons (they would briefly open the waiting list, be inundated with applications in hours then close the list again until they cleared the waiting list... another side effect of covid). In addition, lack of school lessons. I doubt shes the only one.

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 14:34

Thanks, yes, Covid has made a difference here too, to swimming as well as everything else.

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lanthanum · 26/04/2022 14:35

Ask the school about the risk assessment, particularly what it says about non-swimmers.

Some of these pools have a sizeable area suitable for non-swimmers - shallow enough that the waves aren't an issue - I went to one with a couple of toddlers, and although they wore armbands, even a small 11 year old would probably be fine without. It may be that if she is under strict instructions not to go on the big chutes, rapids or into the deeper water, she can join in.

The school may well say "armbands or you don't go in" - that will be her choice to make.

BettieSpaghetti · 26/04/2022 14:37

I'm sure she won't be the only non-swimmer. Also, at that age I'd expect some of the girls to possibly be having periods, and there always seems to be one kid with their arm in a cast or something, so the school might have a few kids that can't go in the pool for one reason or another.

XelaM · 26/04/2022 15:24

I would let her go. An 11-year-old is sensible enough to not go into deep water

fairlygoodmother · 26/04/2022 15:35

I'd be shocked if the school would allow this. In a big group of friends it would be so easy for her to drift out of her depth, even if she stayed where she could stand up, if she fell or was swamped by a wave it's so easy to panic if you're not comfortable in water. I don't think she should be allowed in the water.

As others have pointed out, there will be others who have their period or also can't swim, I'm sure she wouldn't be the only one not swimming.

Muffinsorcrumpets · 26/04/2022 18:07

Thank you all. I will check again with the school about options for non-swimmers or those who don't want to swim for any reason.

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