loved 'Twilight' and let DD9 watch it - am unsure about 'New Moon'

[thedollyridesout]

So, would it be unreasonable of me to say 'no'? Originally I thought I would let her watch the first two movies in the series and then we would go to the cinema together to watch 'Eclipse'.

I am getting cold feet as I think the next two in the series are more (too?) grown up.

AIBU?

I think the domestic violence in New Moon makes it inappropriate for a 9 year old. I let DD watch Twilight and will not let her watch New Moon. She is 9.

Maybe I should add that she has watched all the Harry Potter movies, all the Star Wars movies and all the Indiana Jones movies.

I must have missed a bit, I dont recall any domestic violence in the film.

I dont think the first is that different from the second bar the wolves - the only part I would say was a little more adult was the "lambs to the slaughter" bit near the end.

I haven't seen New Moon myself yet. I nearly bought it today but hesitated - something about the 'choose your own of good looking guy on the cover' made me a bit suspect .

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MillyR, is your DD miffed? Mine is.

No, she isn't that bothered. She wasn't that keen on Twilight anyway. She is watching Buffy box sets at the moment.

DD (9, Y4) has seen Twilight and Eclipse and read New Moon. TBH the fight scenes in Eclipse had us both laughing. I was initially reluctant to let her read the books but TBH the teeny romance stuff goes straight over her head.

woah, i thought you meant dd9, i.e. 9th child. was thinking u were lucky you were able t limit the 'older' stuff. lol

fwiw, I think it's too 'old'

Probably should have put the nine in brackets .

MillyR, you wont let your DD watch Twilight but you let her watch Buffy? is there a reason for that?

oh and Twilight is crap and has awful awful awful attitudes towards women and relationships in it. it has been banned from mention in our house after i gave DD13 a lecture on Why Bella Is A Fucking Idiot.

definitely too old IMO, would definitely not let dd (9) watch it or read it for a good couple of years.

lemonysweet - tell me more

If she's watching Buffy... watch it with her At least by the time it gets to season 6!!

My eldest DD was 12 when season 6 was on TV and I wasn't into it then.. but started watching one half term when she subjected me to back to back episodes and some of season 6 is quite, um, HOT!!!!!
I was shocked....
(and addicted.... God I loved Spike LOL)

I don't think the Twilight films are particularly bad violence wise but I agree the message is appalling.. talk about antifeminist crap!

Unfortunately I still find fictional undead stalker guys attractive.......!

I missed the appalling message in Twilight - please enlighten me .

Twilight... sweet but dumb love story.
New Moon... poor little girl can't cope without her man... mental breakdown... just about recovers ..due to the help of a other man then fucks it all up when beloved comes back on the scene. Ok for him to bugger off leaving her devatsted because HE is only looking after her interests .
Throughout the books Edward is a control freak.. that much is made clear. Bella is unable to function without him.

Most of the content crops up in MN in 'Relationships' from women who are really living in controlling/abusive relationships. It's all 'because he loves her'

I can't imagine a worse message to pass to impressionable young girls!

And in Eclipse she can't make up her mind for sure and messes both men about!

Not exactly a positive role model ....

(mind you I still think Edward is hot.....)

thedollyridesout:

Bella : in a relationship with a boy who stalks her, watches her sleep, destroys/hides her posessions, lies to 'protect' her, gets violent when aroused, bans her from seeing her friend jacob/going to certain areas.
she cant live without him, he is perfection. they are meant to be 17 at this point [well, she is]
very dangerous attitude to show to anyone, never mind young women, that you would crumble and die or sink into deep depression if your BF broke up with you.
she changes very strong core beliefs to be with him, example, she never ever wanted to get married because of her parents divorce, edward asks her, she thinks about it for all of 2, maybe 3 pages of the book, then says yes anyway.
very strong religious overtones [S Meyer the author is mormon]
ie no sex before marriage, sex=baby, sex before marriage is DANGEROUS etc etc.
never mind college an education or a future, soon you'll be a sparkly vampire, you dont need to bother with that!
she is perfectly happy to ditch her friends family her LIFE for this guy.

v. dangerous character.

oh and the other women in it?

Bellas mum Reneedivorced, ditsy, has to be taken care of by either bella or her husband.
Esme: one dimensional 'mother figure' to the vampires
Rosalie: baby hungry bitch who was an airhead in previous life
Leah [wolf] : is an outcast from normal life because as a wolf, she is unable to have children.

note: motherhood and men are the ONLY objectives in these womens lives....except for
Alice: a great character, can sort of tell the future, funny, clever, BUT obsessed with clothes and is unable to go near the baby because of her mind skills
[to be really picky, this is a dig at those with mental issues, as of course anyone suffering with mental illness is completely unable to be a mother

i could go on, i really could.

any questions?

I wouldn?t mind being Edwards submissive.... as long as he let me take turns being dominant. IYKWIMAITYD.

Back to the question, I let my DD watch/read all of them; she is 13 but would have let her at 9. She used to watch Teletubbies when she was a toddler, thankfully she doesn?t waddle around talking gibberish and telling off the vacuum cleaner...

lemonysweet - wow...you've obviously given the matter some thought, thanks for sharing .

I suppose primarily I loved the cinematography of Twilight and also Stephanie Meyer's interpretation of vampires: vegetarian, 'beautiful' in sunlight, strong sense of 'family' (obviously there were the non-civilised kind as well). Bella seemed to be strong and independent, settling in to a new school quickly and easily without trying too hard. She was also very accepting/non judgmental of everyone she met. The fact that she wasn't frightened of Edward and didn't get embarrassed easily around him (the bedroom scene when she encouraged him to stay and just chat) were positive attributes IMO. Also, her protective urge to save her mother and her fearlessness endeared her to me. I felt that she was great role model for my daughter.

emkana - have you seen Twilight?

I would let her watch it! It's really not that bad-it's got nothing on the dark knight and that was only a 12a (bloody terrifying!)

although I agree with everyone about bella - my little sister was Reading the book a while ago and suddenly announced 'ohhh get a f-ing grip love!' haha!

Agree with what lemonysweet says and also, it is stupid (Twilight not lemony's post).

You can let DD watch it because she isn't old enough to play the drinking game.

can't let her watch it!

The drinking game is lethal if you drink every time Bella behaves like a spineless wuss and every time Edward behaves like a controlling arsehole. We also dran whenever the dialogue physically hurt. Very, very smashed.

We were doing everytime he gives an intense stare or she hurts herself, but I got sick, too much tequila in too short a time.