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to be sick of all the nasty, dirty, trampy people in this place?

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MummikinsOopNorth · 08/07/2010 20:18

In the place I live, I regularly people spitting on the floor, so much so, that it is sometimes difficult to avoid stepping in it in the bus station. It really makes me heave when I see some dirty bast*rd doing it.

Also, people throwing litter makes my blood boil. There's this woman who lives near my mother and I have seen her throw her crisp packets twice now and one time was just practically down the road from her house after she had finished eating from the packet, and another time she was in our village and there are bins every few metres down the high street we were on, and she threw the packet on the floor. Dirty cowbag.
I looked out of my window this morning and was really astounded at how littered the place actually was and felt sad. Why don't people want to look after the place in which they live? We have lovely flowerbeds done by the wonderful council, and chip packets, drinks cans and confectionary papers are scattered all around them.
It's so sad.

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HecateQueenOfWitches · 09/07/2010 07:44

I don't understand people who litter. I really don't. Carry your rubbish with you until you find a bin - if you don't find one - take your rubbish home! It's not hard

Don't these people look at the littered streets and think it looks awful?

And what really baffles me is people who throw rubbish from their cars. eh? They can put the rubbish in the boot, or do what I do and hang a carrier bag from the passenger seat to collect rubbish and empty it into the house bin when full.

I see mcdonalds stuff on long country roads. someone is driving through, finishing their mcdonalds (nearest mc is 10+ miles away!) and throwing it out of their car window. I mean why? You are in a car, you clearly will be going home at some point. Keep your rubbish in the car until you get there.

What we need to do is raise children to see littering as a disgusting thing to do. My kids would never litter because the few times they have I've made them chase after it and pick the bugger up and told them how revolting it is! But if children see their parents litter, then they grow up thinking it's no big deal.

This country is dirty. Many other countries have clean streets and people who think littering is disgusting - why can't we?

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3littlefrogs · 09/07/2010 07:57

I work in a fairly deprived part of London. The local authority has spent a fortune renovating housing, and every flat/house has brand new wheely bins in the front.

When I walk along a couple of streets to work I am wading through all kinds of rubbish including food waste, household waste, dirty nappies, drinks cans etc. You can see rats running through the gardens.

I am sorry for the way this sounds, but I think it is relevant: Most of the residents do not contribute anything to society. They have no appreciation of the value of anything. They simply do not care about the environment they live in - the mindset is that they have no responsibility for anything.

They bring up (and I use the term VERY loosely )their numerous children to have no respect or sense of responsibility either.

It is really depressing.

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overmydeadbody · 09/07/2010 08:06

We have an absolutely beautiful common in the centre of the town I live in, and hundreds of people descend on it on nice summer evenings for picnics and bbqs. And every morning when I cycle through it the place is disgusting, people have literally just stood up at the end of their picnic and bbq and walked away, leaving all their litter and debris there.

By 9am the common is spotless again thanks to the litter pickers, but ffs I don;t get why people don't just put their litter in the (many) bins dotted all around the common.

It's not rocket science is it?

overmydeadbody · 09/07/2010 08:09

I don't even live in a deprived area and these peoiple are not all ignorant commoners. A lot of them are foreigners and I do think in some cultures people just don't get the concept of throwing your litter in the bin.

I lived in the middle east for years and it was the norm to chuck your rubbish out of your car and just drop food packets in the street when you where finished with them.

overmydeadbody · 09/07/2010 08:11

This country is dirty, but it's not as bad as many others. Just look at Egypt, and Cairo in particular. It's just one huge rubbish dump.

melikalikimaka · 09/07/2010 08:24

It's not just litter though, it's the whole attitude of people in those areas. These areas get more money for this and that, and it is not appreciated. Where my Mom lived, people regularly put cookers, sofas, general rubbish on the street, cos they knew our soft council would collect it every time. Yet if I did it on my road, my neighbours would soon come around to see what I was doing and insist I get rid of it properly. It's one rule for them and another for us. They know they can get away with it.

insertwittynicknameHERE · 09/07/2010 08:29

This makes me so , especially when I see children who are out with their parents throwing litter such as crisp packets etc.

My DD1 (2.5yo) did this about a year ago in the local shopping mall, she was approx 18mo at the time. I told her to pick it up and put it in the bit bin (my nana always calls it a bit bin lol). DD duly picked it up and now always throws her litter in a bin or gives it to me to take home with us.

My feeling is if a 2.5yo child can do it so can older children and adults who must and should know better.

StealthPolarBear · 09/07/2010 08:30

i once drove behind someone for about 5 mins, every minute or so another empty McD's packet cam flying out of their window
My car is a litter bin on wheels, but that's my problem I do clean it out when the rubbish i stuffed in the door sill things comes out when i open the door

insertwittynicknameHERE · 09/07/2010 08:36

It is not all people in deprived areas. We live in a so called deprived area, but myself, DH and DD1 (DD2 is only 11mo so wouldn't have any litter to throw lol) do not throw litter or fly tip. I have never seen any of my neighbors in the street do it either.
The street we live on is kept clean and tidy by the residents, our front gardens are neat and tidy, not so much my back garden but it is a work in progress and does not have litter in it.

When I visit my mum (not very often TBH, but that is another thread) she lives in what is described as an 'affluent' area. But the amount of people who litter, fly tip and keep untidy gardens is awful.

So I don't always buy the deprived area argument.

wahwahwah · 09/07/2010 08:36

Spitters should be shot. Litter louts should also be shot.

People who use foul language when children are in earshot should be shot. Drunks who throw up in the street/over your wall/on your front steps... should have their noses rubbed in it,

Rude people, dangerous cyclists, people who don't pick up their dog poo (esp the ones who pretend not to see it), aggressive chuggers... let me think... people who don't say thank you when you hold a door open, who sholder-barge you in the street on purpose, people who stop suddenly at the bottom of escalators... all shot.

I am such a misery. I have mentioned to DP that I want to join the Community Police (mainly to get a uniform and have The Power) but he said that I was a mad vigilante and would probably get shot on my first day.

sarah293 · 09/07/2010 08:39

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ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 09/07/2010 08:43

Wouldn't all the bodies make the place look untidy, wahwah?

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wahwahwah · 09/07/2010 08:47

You know all those stadiums for the football-things in South Africa? We could stack them there and compost them. Then put them on the roses.

choccyp1g · 09/07/2010 08:50

It's certainly not just "deprived" areas. I live in one of the most expensive areas outside London, and regularly take a carrier bag and gloves to do a litter pick on the way home from school. It seems to be several people who walk to and from the station every day, slurping Red Bull and tossing the cans in the hedge. At least one new can arriving every day. Also crisp packets, sandwich wrappers, etc. etc.

valiumSingleton · 09/07/2010 08:53

You saw somebody daefecating on the street?!

Wow. YOu win. I was trying not to be too Penelope Keith-ish the other day when I had to leave a cafe because 3 women were yelling about somebody else's blocked bowel. Then they got hold of a sniff of a rumour that an acquaintance was pregnant and they were ringing all their other hideous chums to try and corroborate or refute this rumour - as though the pregnant woman was a liar for not telling them instantly. ONe of them had a child with her and she kept saying 'fucking cunt' in front of a tiny little girl.

I give back litter to people as well! I will be stabbed one day.

valiumSingleton · 09/07/2010 08:56

I must have been hallucinating when I thought I read that somebody did a poo on the street. Sorry about that. I am insane (but not a litterbug).

insertwittynicknameHERE · 09/07/2010 08:58

I think litter dropping is part and parcel of a wider problem in society.

The majority of people just do not care nowadays (gawd I feel so old saying that)

The way people talk and interact with others and the way people keep their homes etc etc ect all adds up to how society is in general.

It is very very sad . I sometimes would love to be able to go back to say my nanas and even my mums childhoods when things were much simpler, but people had respect for one another and for themselves.

LilRedWG · 09/07/2010 08:59

It makes me so sad too. I takes only a minute to put your litter in a bin. DD (4) and her friend (3) were recently picking up litter in our local little park and putting it in the bin as, "only naughty people throw rubbish Mumm". Surely if small children can get that message then adults can too.

insertwittynicknameHERE · 09/07/2010 09:00

Exactly lilredWG, if a young child gets it and knows it is wrong then surly adults and older children should.

lottiejenkins · 09/07/2010 09:03

My late dh was once weeding in our front garden, he stood up in time to see a man letting his dog do an enormous crap on the path in front of our house. He didnt see DH and started to walk away. My dh then said quite loudly "you are going to pick that up arent you??!!??" The man got very flustered and the only thing he had to pick it up with was a freshly laundered white handcerchief so he used that!!!