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Should I have let DD go on the Carousel?

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woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 19:40

Its a bit long winded this one.

It was DDs 4th birthday last thursday. There is a carousel not far from us atm. DD loves carousels, been on them loads and without knowing this one had arrived, she said the night before her birthday 'mama, can i go on a carousel for my birthday pleeeease?' so I remembered that there was one in town. However, it was raining, so it was not open, instead we went to get an ice cream and a promise of going on it as soon as it was not raining any more.

DD has asked every day since if we can go on it, some days it has been raining, and the last two days, although not raining, it was still not open.

Today, we went out for lunch with some old friends, and DD was so well behaved, which is unusual for her at lunchtime . As a treat we had ice cream, and drove past the carousel to get home, and it was open, DD saw it, bouncing up and down in the back of the car, and DH checked the change in his pocket, £3.00, no problem 'you can only have one go though today DD ok?' 'yes daddy' bouncing around. We thought, normally £1.50, we might let her have two.

Get to the carousel, and a miserable woman comes up to our DD, who is skipping and twirling in her new 'party' dress with excitement, and said 'she going on it on her own?' and we said 'yes please' 'she will have to sit the carriage then, she can't go on a horse' (she has never sat in the carriage, she thinks it is for 'babies'!) 'why' 'because she can't, you have to go on with her if you want her on a horse' 'ok, one of us will stand next to her then' (being all friendly) 'sure...£4.00 luv' why £4.00??? 'there are two of you on it, you have to pay for both or she sits in the carriage on her own' the woman quite clearly could not give a toss whether DD was gutted or not, and there were no other people wanting to go on it. There was no way I was going to go get change (would have to drive to cashpoint) and come back to pay £4 for a 2 minute carousel ride

So we did not go on it, poor DD was very upset. We promised her she could have two gos next time. There is another one that comes to the area and I said we would go there as soon as it arrives and that we would have lots of change and that she would not have to go in the baby carriage.

DD behaved appallingly all afternoon, and was quite angry at me, generally misbehaving, refusing to do what i told her, and early evening, after I put her on the 'step' for being rude to me, she went to hit me with a toy, and i could see her anger, i put it down to tiredness/hunger so told her she was having her tea then straight to bed. She ran around the house laughing at me and being a right little madam.

when she was in bed, I told her she had upset me with her behavour and she started crying and said she was sorry. I cuddled her and said thank you for saying sorry, and asked her why she was being naughty for daddy and me. She said, in between tears that 'i was not naughty for daddy, i was being naughty for you' 'why for me?' 'daddy let me go on the carousel, you didn't, i was upset with you' 'so you have been naughty because you were upset with me? because you could not go on the carousel?' so i gave her a big hug and stroked her hair, and explained that the woman would not let her on the big horses on her own and that she did not want to go in the carriage instead so we could not do it today. I said I did not mean to upset her and promised we would do it another day (again). She said 'but i was a good girl today mama' and it broke my heart.

I told DH this when i had finished putting her to bed and he said he had seen her face drop when I said we could not do it today, she had been heartbroken.

Was I being unreasonable to not just pay the £4 even though I considered it to be daylight robbery? Even though it meant walking the 5 mins back to the car, driving to a cash point, taking out more than the 50p i needed, driving back, walking to it? (then giving a miserable woman who could not even smile at an excited child my hard earned money). Should I have just paid it, as now DD thinks I don't keep my promises. Which, well clearly, I don't.

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TheButterflyEffect · 08/07/2010 19:45

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MadameCastafiore · 08/07/2010 19:45

She'll forget it in a couple of days I wouldn't persecute yourself over it.

If she brings it up again tell her that you didn't have enough money on you and that is why you couldn't go on it and end the conversation there.

As for the bad behaviour - do not accept her reasoning - tell her that there is no excuse for bad behaviour - she can talk about what is wrong if she wants to and you explain to her again why she couldn't go on it but if she misbehaves punish her as you normally would.

Morloth · 08/07/2010 19:45

That really sucks.

Honestly I would have told her why she wasn't able to go on. Or I would have given her the option of sitting in the carriage this time with promises of better rides at another time.

You were not being unreasonable though, it is just one of those things that happen. Definitely let her have some extra goes next time if you can.

thisisyesterday · 08/07/2010 19:46

hmm i think i would have let her go on it

although i probably would have said something along the lines of

"DD, we don't have enough money to pay for you to go on the horse. so, you can go on the baby carriage today, or you can wait for another time and have 2 goes on a horse"
or somethjiking like that to try and get her to choose waiting! but if she really wanted to go on then yes i'd have let her, but only on the carriage, i wouldn't have paid £4 and i would have explained to her why

still, i am sure she'll be very happy when she gets to go on the next one anyway so i hoenstly wouldn't worry about it

specialmagiclady · 08/07/2010 19:47

Poor everyone! Bit of a rock/hard place interface. Your little girl has been waiting patiently for her birthday treat for - how many days? She came and didn't get on for a reason she doesn't fully understand. No wonder she's cross. You would be too.

I can't think how I'd have handled it differently, tbh, apart from saying "you can go on the carousel if you go on the carriage or not at all" thus giving her a little bit of power over the situation.

Maybe tomorrow you could make a special trip, making sure you've been to the cashpoint on the way so you have funds.

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PeedOffWithNits · 08/07/2010 19:48

woman was obviously not very friendly, but I personally would not let a 4 yo ride alone on a big carousel, assuming it was one of the proper big ones

life is hard but they sometimes have to learn - if you clearly gave her the choice of the carriage or nothing, and explained you did not have enough money for you both to ride, she is old enough to choose

woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:15

peed it was not the enormous ones. I was a proper carousel but small enough. We have in the past stood next to her, but apparantly this constituted 'being on the ride'/

I did give her the option of the carriage, not a chance! And explained to her about the no change.

specialmagiclady that is what i thought, and tbh i was surprised and impressed that she had the insight to express the reason she was so upset.

madam I did continue with the punishment for the bad behaviour, I agree that still needed to happen. I had told her that she would have tea, then straight to bed, and that is exactly what we did. She accepted that, and when we talked about why, she understood and although we made up, she knew she would not be getting back up.

DH has said we should take her tomorrow, but I am really loathed to give the robbing miserable woman my money! DH said I should just swallow it and do it.

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woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:16

Thanks everyone. I guess, this is one of those moments with my child that I waver and am not sure if the course of action I took was the right one. I did this thread to get some perspectives on how i could have handled it differently, so that if/when this type of thing happens again, i am better armed with a tactic!

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thisisyesterday · 08/07/2010 20:33

i would see if you can find a different one to go to tomorrow, or at the weekend.
no idea how you'd find out where one is though

woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:37

thisisyesterday there is another one which is normally here, but it is not for some reason. But it will be back, as it is here for the summer holidays. This one, the one we went to today, we have not been to it before as it is new. The other one, which will return soon is great, it is set up by the harbour, and there is a helter-skelter there too. I have told DD all about it, she remembers going on it last year, and she is excited about that, but I don't know exactly when they are back again. I have looked on google and nothing is coming up.

I might pop into town itself tomorrow, there is sometimes one there.

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mustrunmore · 08/07/2010 20:38

Where are you, roughly? I bet a mnetter knows of a nice one somewhere

woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:41

I am in South Devon. I could go to torquay, there will be one there!

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LIZS · 08/07/2010 20:43

Bit late to ask really but yes I'd have let her, probably using Morloth's reasoning. I recall the previous thread , about her bday being "spoilt" and agree perhaps you try too hard when simpler things will do.

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NoahAndTheWhale · 08/07/2010 20:46

Did the person running the ride know that you only had £3?

woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:49

LIZS well, I guess I am asking so I can learn for next time. I expect there will be next times, maybe not carousels, but other things!

I probably do try to hard. I just want her to have wonderful memories of growing up. And you would think a carousel would not be so difficult to organise eh .

keep lots of change in the car

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woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:52

noah no, because she could not give a toss, she hardly made the effort to talk to us, she was abrasive in her manner, and was not approachable, although she knew we had enough for one ride, as DH had held it out to her as we went to get DD on the horse.

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NoahAndTheWhale · 08/07/2010 20:53

She sounds a mean old boot.

I would have been really upset myself actually . I really hope you find another one very soon

woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:54

oh and don't think these conversations, the stuff I talk about in this thread would be discussed within earshot of DD. DH and I talk about these kind of worries that we have when DD is asleep! She does not know what a neurotic mother I am! If she did, she would have more tantrums to get her own way, i am sure! As far as she sees, mummy said no. She does not know I am upset that she is upset!

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woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 20:58

noah i was upset. I hate disappointing DD. I know it happens sometimes, and she does not always get the things she wants, and it is not a big deal, she gets over it very quickly. But that does not mean I don't feel sad when she is upset. I know, character building and all that, but she is my little girl and I love making her happy!

And this was her birthday treat postponed. And now again.

We will try to find one when she is at nursery tomorrow afternoon, then take her on the way home. But we won't tell her, in case it does not happen.

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woodlandfaerie · 08/07/2010 21:40

you mean teach her the life of hard knocks approach? does it really have to be that way? Can't I want to try to make her happy as much as possible?
Yes, teach her to deal with life's pitfalls and disappointments, that she can't always get her own way, and to get up, brush down, move on, but surely at 4yo i should be going out of my way to teach her life is fun and happy and exciting before teaching her to get over shit? Oh I don't know. Sometimes, sometimes it must be right to go out of my way to give her what she wants, to show her that while she will often not get her own way, sometimes she will get exactly what she wants. I just did not know if that was one of those times.

I do try to be consistent in our discipline. whatever wobbles we have with our parenting, we follow whatever action we say we will, then worry about it outside of earshot!

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thisisyesterday · 08/07/2010 22:04

woodland, i agree wholeheartedly
i totally don't get the whole "they'll be disappointed in the future, so get them used to it" train of thought

your children are only little once. why not try and make it as lovely for them as possible? they'bve got plenty of time to learn about how crappy the real world can be, and that, IMO, makes it even more important that family life is NOT like that. that your parents and family are the people you can rely on to make it all better, to make it nice and to do lovely things for you that they don't have to do, but do anyway because they love you

and we have to remember that while we KNOW there are better carousels, or that the old biddy is being unreasonable and extortionate and we don't want to give her money... to a 4 yr old all they know is that they've been waiting for this carousel... and you've said they can go on and now you're saying no

4 yr olds aren't reasonable. really, rthere is plenty time for that later.
that doesn't mean to say you should spoil her, in my first post i said i wouldn't have gone off to a cashpoint or anything, but that doesn't mean you can't take reasonable steps to give them things you know they would really, really love