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TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:24

Before I start, why don't you go and put the kettle on because this could be long !

When I met DH he had been separated from his ex-g for a few years as she had left him and taken their DD to go and live with another man (2 doors along...)

Anyway, DH had been been heartbroken by this, but managed to pull himself together with the thought that at least he could still see DD often, even though it was very stressful and difficult for him.

Eventually (before meeting me) he sold the house and gave ex-g 50% of equity (almost a 6-figure sum). Obviously this money was intended to be put towards a roof over their heads, whether it be paying off some of new boyfriends mortgage/investing for future house sale etc.

Not exactly sure what happened with that to be honest, as none of my business, but he then met me and we fell head over heels in love , after a long time I met his lovely DD and we instantly clicked, it was all great.

Next thing you know, ex-g is on the doorstep, shouting to DH that I am to stay away from her daughter, not to touch her, and that I am nothing but a gold digger. This sort of behaviour carried on on a weekly basis, name calling at the door, threats via her daughter ("Mummy says if she sees you in the supermarket she will shout at you" - from a 4 yr old), hundreds of texts and phone calls to DH, threatening letters in DD's overnight bag, etc.

I can honestly, honestly tell you that to this day, I have no idea why she did this to me. I had never actually met her, and had never uttered a word out of line, even though I desperately wanted to just tell her to fuck off.

She ended up splitting up from the neighbour and moving straight in with her new boyfriend, which caused a lot of upset for DD, yet all her troubles were blamed on us and got even worse when I was pregnant with our DS. I was wrongly accused of tricking DH into getting me pregnant, told that our baby was unwanted, that we were both selfish for wanting a child, screamed at down the phone etc, etc. I was also told by her that DD (age 7) had said she wanted to kill me and the baby.

It was so bad that I needed to go into hospital for problems with high blood pressure.

Things eventually calmed down for a bit after my DS was born - we met up and managed to get along - she apologised and I tried to forget about all the past and forgive.

But things have slowly got worse, and every other week there is an "issue". It is always something that we have allegedly done/not done, we are always blamed, told we are awful people, terrible parents, or if she's been naughty at home then it's our fault! She swaps the weekends around all the time so we don't know if we are coming or going, and if we have made plans on a non-DD weekend, tells us we should change the plans and put DD first! She's now asking for extra money, when she already gets a hefty sum per month.

She regularly complains that they are poor, yet has a brand new car, and DD tells us of mummy's Chloe handbag and Jimmy Choo shoes, and where they have been out to for the weekend etc.

I'm not sure what happened to the almost £100 grand that she had from the house sale, but I'm pretty sure it didn't get invested properly.

I am driving around in a banged up old Renault in my Birkies and paying for essentials on my credit card because we are so pushed for cash at the moment!

I am just so so fed up with it all. DH and I spend evenings getting all worked up about it all, and sometimes arguing about it. It makes me so mad the way we have both been treated - especially DH - he gets so depressed about it all. I just don't know what to do - I don't want to carry on with this constant abuse/emotional blackmail.

How on earth do you get a person like this to stop? Or do you not? Or AIBU and should I just be putting up with this as I decided to get involved with a man who had a child?

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sarah293 · 06/07/2010 15:30

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slushy · 06/07/2010 15:31

I don't think you should put up with this but I don't know what to suggest. what a horrid situation for you.

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:33

Thanks Riven We actually tried to do that once, but it cost us £350 for them just to send a letter telling her to stop harassing us. It didn't work at all and DH doesn't want to have to spend out even more money on legal costs.

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racmac · 06/07/2010 15:39

I would suggest you start by keeping a log of every incident that happens - everything in detail.

Issue an application for contact yourselves - you do not need a Solicitor to do this.

If the harassment conitnues go to the Police and ask them to deal with it for you

AnnieJL · 06/07/2010 15:42

Have you tried mediation?

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:44

Thanks racmac - we did actually involve the police at one point, and she was warned that she could have been arrested, but I stopped them from doing so as I didn't want DD to upset DD . It's just all so exhausting and it is spilling over into our DS's life too - I don't want his life tainted by all this nonsense .

I want to be able to do the "right" thing, but I just don't know what that is.

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TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:49

I meant I didn't want to upset DD!

DH has asked countless times if they can meet up to discuss things, including DD's behaviour which has been very bad, but she always declines. The solicitor suggested mediation, but that was ignored too. Basically she just likes to rant and rave, and then when you say, ok, can we sit down and talk about it, she says no.

It is so frustrating.

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TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:50

I meant I didn't want to upset DD!

DH has asked countless times if they can meet up to discuss things, including DD's behaviour which has been very bad, but she always declines. The solicitor suggested mediation, but that was ignored too. Basically she just likes to rant and rave, and then when you say, ok, can we sit down and talk about it, she says no.

It is so frustrating.

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TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:50

Sorry didn't mean to post twice!

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racmac · 06/07/2010 15:52

I would refuse to discuss anything with her tbh - stop trying - if she starts shouting and screaming shut door on her - if she phones you hang up

your DD is probably acting up because of all this - i think i would be thinking about going for residency given this is not going to get better but in the meantime treat her like a toddler if she is acting like that - ignore her and dont give her airtime.

You would not be the one upsetting DD she would be by her behaviour

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 15:53

Sorry also just to add, we did try to keep a log of what was going on for a time, but there were so many and such long text messages and voicemails that it was becoming a full time occupation! DH and I have resorted to keeping all our old phones with the memory in them so that we can keep it that way.

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griffaloschild · 06/07/2010 15:55

What a terrible situation. Yes agree with racmac, maybe the police might be a route to go down?

Otherwise would it be feasible to move a little away from them, so you can still see step DD but not have to deal with ex on such a regular basis? I know you shouldn't have to do this and given your financial situ probably isn't feasible but just a thought.

I can only assume she is jelous of your happiness, what does her new boyfriend think of all this nonsense?

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 16:05

Actually when she met the new boyfriend she moved further away so luckily we no longer have the doorstep showdown !

It's mainly the texts to DH - a lot of emotional blackmail which he gives in to a lot.

I'm not sure if the boyfriend (fiance now actually) knows about it all - I think she might be selective in what she tells him.

I'm not sure she is jealous to be honest, as she is always saying how happy she is with her man. They are having a hard time with DSD's behaviour at the moment, I know that, but I just don't see why it all has to be blamed on us.

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JacobBlacksBitch · 06/07/2010 16:14

she's clearly obsessive & jealous. I feel for her DD and you & your partner. What a nightmare.

I would do as others have suggested:
Keep a log of everything.
Submit an application for contact via courts - get that formalised ASAP cause she isn't getting any better in the future.
Do not talk or interact with her at all beyond the bare minimum. Any necessary communication should be by email or written letter only dealing only with what has to be said re the child.

Do not take her calls, don't reply to texts, keep emails to bare minimum i.e. ignore, ignore, ignore and engage with her the minimum you can get away with.

It will be hard, but I don't think she is going anywhere and she will try & make your family miserable forever if you let her. You and your partner seem to have been trying to communicate with her, but she has a completely different agenda - one that you will NEVER understand (if you could she will change it).

best of luck.

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 16:23

Thanks JBB - I have been telling DH something along these lines for a while, however he does find it really hard.

When he is accused of something - whether it be lying/causing a problem/terrible dad, he feels an uncontrollable urge to defend himself, which is understandable of course. He also worries about what may be said to his DD when he is not there. I feel so and for him.

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Squitten · 06/07/2010 16:27

Sounds like unless you take a hard line with this woman, you won't get any peace. You hinted that your DH is a bit of a walkover where she is concerned so unless you get serious about putting a stop to it, she'll continue to make your lives miserable.

It's up to YOU how much abuse you intend to accept from her. I would be doing what has already been suggested here

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 16:36

TBH maybe what I am asking is how I can help DH to deal with this. I suppose it's the fact that it is out of my control that annoys me.

How do I get him to stop being such a walkover?

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fedupofnamechanging · 06/07/2010 16:37

Call the police and show them the threatening letters sent via your DSD. Don't give in to her demands for extra money - sounds like she's had more than her fair share. Start application for full custody of the dd, on the grounds that she is an unfit parent. Totally unacceptable for her to relay threats to you via her child (or at all). If you do nothing, her behaviour will escalate imo as no-one has enforced any rules with this woman. Remember, none of this is your fault (or your DHs). It sounds to me as if she regrets the choices she made and is jealous,

EldritchCleavage · 06/07/2010 16:38

I think with people like her you have to really avoid reacting to all the crap. It's very hard but the only thing that really works is to be quietly determined and utterly, utterly consistent about what you will and will not do/take/agree to/put up with. Repetition without emotional engagement.

And any warning issued must be carried out, whether it is police, courts or no contact or money. Backing down is a bad idea, because it just reinforces her sense that all this can be indulged in without any adverse consequences, so I would only issue a warning (eg about going to police) if you and your DH are determined to see it through.

Good luck.

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 16:43

Thank you

Can I just point out that this has been going on for nearly 6 years, so some of the incidences (threatening letter) occurred a long time ago - though I do still have it! I did actually show the police the letter and they took one look at it and said "sounds like a complete unstable nutter!"

I will speak to DH tonight about laying out some ground rules.

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Choconellie · 06/07/2010 19:48

Can't your husband take a stance and refuse any contact with her unless it is purely to do with the uplifting/dropping off times of their daughter. Other than that I don't see why she thinks she has rights to your husbands attention in any other way, she is no longer his partner.
He shouldn't get into any arguements with her about anything. She should take the hint eventually.

Morloth · 06/07/2010 20:00

You need a lawyer. Contact/child support needs to be set in stone.

Refuse any direct contact with her except for drop off/pick up of DSD (possible even arrange for this to happen in an "official" place) and insist that ALL grievances/accusations be put in writing.

No arguments, don't rise to the bait (easier said than done I know).

Your poor DSD, I wonder who her mother thinks she is really hurting with all this crap?

TheChicOfIt · 06/07/2010 23:13

Thank you all for your help .

Will report back once I have spoken to DH.

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baskingseals · 06/07/2010 23:29

god what an awful situation. agree with other posters about not reacting at all, you're just feeding her. ignore ignore ignore.

whatever she tells dd, dd will know the truth. children usually do. they are young not stupid. would think about going for residency.

i don't think she's going to go away on her own. you have to be proactive with this. take the control back. really good luck.

Harimo · 09/07/2010 12:15

Hey!! I found it!! Yeah!!!

my situation isn't dissimilar, though they were married (and still married when I met DH and still married when Ex decided that the last thing on earth was divorce)...

Honestly, 13 years down the line.. my only advice is DETACH. Honestly, it's the only way to stay sane and keep a relationship.

DON'T keep a diary or log of what she does. It will drive you UP THE WALL.

Let your DH/DP deal with her.

I do text Dh's ex occasionally, but only about administrative stuff when DH can't (he works abroad and travels frequently). otherwise, she can take a very long running jump...

I appreciate that she feels hard done to and that I was the OW, but... you know.. in 13 years, that woman has got a pretty hefty back catalouge of shitty behaviour and I really just can't be doing with her anymore. Even more than that, she's shitty to my children - which IMHO, is the lowest of the low given their age (she will have her children ignore mine if she is with them).

But, seriously... protect yourself, protect your family and leave her to it.

In my case, Dh actually left 100% equity, 100% possessions,. EVERYTHING. The only things he took from that marriage were a £12K loan, and credit for the new SAAB convertible she wanted. Seriously. it's all gone. She lives in a crappy 3 bed house and is constantly bleating about being skint and needing more. We pay for EVERYTHING for the girls. EVERYTHING.

I know how hard it is, I used to let it all get to me and it gave her control. Since I let it all go, that control has shifted. I'm in the driving seat now.

Forget her. Care for your DD but let your DP sort everything else and don't question what he decides to do.

HM x

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