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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

that my DH is not so much "amazing" but simply pulling his weight?

24 replies

SloanyPony · 30/06/2010 16:14

Okay, first of all, my DH is amazing, but not because of this. He is a wonderful father, very good at his job and very easy to live with and lovely to be around, and in that regard, he is amazing, but this is about something else.

He works long hours, and consequently, because he's not here as often as me (who doesn't work), he doesn't do much around the house. He's simply not here and by the time the children are in bed and we sit down for dinner, everything is done, including dinner cooked/prepped, the only thing left is the dishwasher which will sometimes need unstacking and will always then need stacking.

Because he doesn't do much else, and we even get the lawns mowed and the cars washed (which are the "traditional" male things to do around the house!) so that he can spend more quality time with DC's on the weekend, we basically fell into a routine where its his "job" to unstack the dishwasher (usually while I'm putting the finishing touches on dinner, so we talk and catch up while we are doing it) and then stack it and wipe around the side. It takes about 10-15 minutes tops, he's happy doing it, I'm very happy that he does it, and everything is fine.

What I do find slightly miff-making however is the comments that it triggers when we have either set of parents staying with us, or various other house guests. Whether its my parents or his, they bleat on and on about how "well trained" he is and how "helpful" and wonderful and how the sun literally shines out of his ass simply because he knows how to put some dirty dishes in the dishwasher and turn it on.

Is he well trained? If so, who trained him? Who is he helping? Everyone, obviously, but the implication is its me because for some reason it is assumed it is my job.

Just for clarification, I dont think its to do with me being a SAHM, as I have only been one for a couple of years and before that I worked full time and commuted like he did. Yet still we got all this "oh, he's so good! Oh Sloany, he's one out of a box isn't he. Oh wow, you do have him well trained!"

This is not a rant about him in any way, we are both happy with the balance of who does what as it stands at the moment, its a rant about people's attitudes to men contributing to the household. I can't help but feel these kinds of attitudes perpetuate a society where it is assumed that all household tasks default to the one who doesn't have a penis and any that are carried out by the person with the penis are a massive favour to person without.

AIBU to think that as it is his house too, he eats the food as well, dirties the dishes too etc its not massively unusual that he should, and does, contribute to the cleaning up that goes with that?

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Cretaceous · 30/06/2010 16:18

I'm always getting similar comments about my OH . His mum brought him up well, I think, as his brother's the same. I hope I'll pay it on and bring up my son to be happy to do household chores.

(Of course, I've also played a part in being fairly crap around the house myself...)

slushy · 30/06/2010 16:19

I do all the chores in the house being a SAHM and we split on the weekends so we have more family time. I think this is fair when I go back to work we will do things 50/50. SIL Works Earns less money than her dh but more hours he is home by 3.00 most days and does all the cleaning while her dh goes on the computer. I have seen her argue for him to help they will argue for about a hour he walks out and continues to do nothing. So when I look at her dh and then my dp I think he is amazing.

SloanyPony · 30/06/2010 16:20

Oh I'll tell you where he is well trained though - by his parents - he always closes the lid of the toilet before flushing. When I have another male stay in the house, or builders in or whatever, that always leaves me gasping in indignation.

Actually the sun really does shine out of his arse doesn't it...

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SloanyPony · 30/06/2010 16:23

See that's kind of my point I think Slushy ... is it time we stopped comparing our men to non-contributing bad examples and them being good in comparison, and just looked at what they do at face value and weigh it up against the circumstances (like how long they work, whether you work etc) rather than evaluating it differently because they are men?

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slushy · 30/06/2010 16:24

'he always closes the lid of the toilet before flushing'

Dp does not do this and argues that it is me who should put the seat up as I am outnumbered by boys in this house . Tell me how do you argue with that?

slushy · 30/06/2010 16:27

I agree wholeheartedly sloanypony but I think that is what others think I think it is a bit SIL's fault as far as I can see she lets him get away with it she rarely argues and is all over him when he comes back after his tantrum.

twolittlemonkeys · 30/06/2010 16:29

I get similar comments about my DH, who is great and does more than pull his weight, despite me being a SAHM. He sees that I get quite stressed with the boys so comes home from work, plays with them on the trampoline etc, helps me make dinner, clears up the kitchen, does bedtime routine with us. Can't fault him. It's great and we're all happy but why is it that people expect men to do nothing when they get home rather than expect them to pull their weight?

Missus84 · 30/06/2010 16:34

It's pretty offensive to men really that society likes to view them as lazy, stupid and incapable and people are shocked when one can do a bit of housework (in his own home!) or babysit (his own children!!).

porcamiseria · 30/06/2010 16:41

its annoying, the priase they get for doing one single thing, sigh

I work FT and I do bloody everything, maybe thats a bit unfair... but anyway

goobledygook · 30/06/2010 16:54

I get this too.
He comes home from work rather then go to the pub and therefore he is amazing. But I don't go to the pub either.
The one that really gets me though is if I go out I get asked if DH is babysitting?! Er no, he is looking after his own children.
I'll bet no one asks him who's babysitting when he goes out

goobledygook · 30/06/2010 16:54

x post Missus84

Ladyanonymous · 30/06/2010 17:09

My mum thinks my ex dh is great because he still has his kids every other weekend and I should "think myself" lucky that he stuck around .....never mind the fact I have them full time, work and negiotiate a complicated school run...because I "chose" to be on my own...(it was a mutual desicion)

slummybutyummy · 30/06/2010 17:13

Sounds like he's a saint sloany {grin}

booyhoo · 30/06/2010 17:13

GGGRRRRR i feel your pain.

my mum does the whole face and says things like "he probably doesn't have much choice" when she sees OH tidying up his own mess or cooking. it really grates on me. why the hell shouldn't he do it? arghh.

PfftTheMagicDragon · 30/06/2010 17:28

It's quite patronising to men really isn't it?

FIL thinks I am a right tyrant. Hates to see DH consulting me on things and tells him that he should be doing whatever he wants to do on weekends, time for himself, out at the cricket all day. He earns the money so he should spend his weekends doing things by himself. Never enters his mind that DH might want to see his family at the weekend

agedknees · 30/06/2010 17:36

Think it is a generation thing. When dh and myself had pil's staying with us (14 weeks, don't ask), we both worked.

One night dh phoned to say he was having a beer after work. Mil whinging that she needed dinner (if she eats after 6pm she changes into a gargoyle).

Anyway, I made dinner, plated it up and put a plate in the oven to stay warm for dh.

So me, dd, fil and mil are eating. dh comes in the door and mil fixes me with a glare and shouts am I not going to get dh's meal out of the oven.

btw, I had done a 8 hour shift, collected dd from childcare, came home and set about cooking dinner whilst mil had sat on her big backside all day doing nowt.

So I got wasn't dh good to have got his own dinner out of the oven whilst lazy me was eating.

It drives you up the wall.

OP yanbu.

Maranello · 30/06/2010 17:39

it is patronising to men, yes. i recently had a night away (my first since dc2) and when he heard about it, my dad asked me "who'll look after the kids?" well, er, dh, their father? and while i was on said night out, the number of people who, upon discovering the amazing news that a man was spending the evening looking after his own children, expressed admiration or hoped he was coping ok... dh is a parent, same as me.

but it is far more damaging to women, i think, this idea that the starting point for home life - be it childcare or housework - is that the woman does it all, and any contribution made by the man is a Big Deal and [shudder] "helping her out". why is the starting point not 50-50?

lazarusb · 30/06/2010 17:49

I think it's up to men to say that they are happy to do it and it's normal. My dh was brought up in a house where his mum did everything while dad went out to work. I pointed out that I wouldn't be prepared to live with someone who expected that of me and he pitched in and always has done since. Mil used to call me over at family gatherings to change dds nappy- he would step in and say he'd do it. I've grown quite lazy actually....

smugmumofboys · 30/06/2010 17:59

DH's granny once commented that I was 'lucky' because DH spends so much time playing with our children and isn't it great how he 'helps' me out?

She's 93 this week. I doubt she'll ever change.

chandellina · 30/06/2010 20:07

YANBU. Maybe you should point out that you must be even better trained, since he has only one task to do, and you have dozens.

Fortunately my DH wasn't raised to think his mum or any other woman would pick up after him and do all the housework, and he does help out. But he also would be happy to live in a barn, in utter filth and where no one would pester him about hanging up his trousers.

msripley · 30/06/2010 20:14

My gran, who's now 98, used to ask "who's looking after the children then?" if I visited her on my own - then look amazed when I said "dh is".

So I used to steal a line from an old film: "Oh I've left them alone with a carelessly balanced oil heater". I recommend it to you all.

Lyra75 · 30/06/2010 20:25

YADNBU. This does my head in!

Like you I have a fantastic DH but he's fantastic because of who he is, not because he is not a waste of space. I agree with the posters who say it is patronising to men - absolutely! And I really don't want that attitude passed on to my two sons.

msripley - I'm going to steal your stolen line

SDeuchars · 30/06/2010 20:36

(Unemployed for years) ExH used to say he'd get the shopping "for me"!! Like, he didn't eat?

He also whinged about looking after DC while I worked (and paid the mortgage and bills ofr all four of us - but I wasn't allowed to mention that).

Guess why he is ex?

lazarusb · 30/06/2010 21:13

My granddad was always shocked that I could drive. Didn't know women could do that...still I miss him now he's gone

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