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to have dealt with this playground situation as I did.

14 replies

lecce · 27/06/2010 20:26

I'm afraid I didn't and was a wuss. I have always struggled with being assertive, especially with people I don't know and feel I may have both let my ds down and set him a bad example.

This is what happened. We were in the playground and ds's inflatable football must have blown out of the buggy without us noticing. Ds was on the climbing thing (he is 3) and I was helping des2 (11mths) to play on the slide.

A woman got talking to me and then we realised that her ds had my ds's football and ds was was saying, 'It's mine,' and the other boy was saying ,'No it isn't.' Realising what must have happened, I said something like, 'Oh it must have blown out of the buggy, it really is ds's but, ds, it would be fun to play with this little boy.' Basically, my hope was that she would get her son to relinquish his hold but that we would encourage them to play together with it as my ds enjoys this but doesn't get much chance as I don't have friends with children the same age.

The other mother said weakly, 'Give it back, ds,' but when he totally ignored her she just shrugged and giggled at me and resumed talking. I was not that into her conversation and, in any case always keep half an eye on ds just in case. What followed was her ds (he was a year older than mine btw) held onto the ball and my ds chased after him, saying 'It's mine!' and her ds kept denying it! It doesn't sound that bad but ds kept looking at me as if to say, 'Why don't you tell her!' I don't know, he just seemed bemused, not upset, but a bit wtf. At one point they stopped running and her ds pushed mine, enough to make him stumble. She said something like, 'Don't push,' (weakly) Again, my ds looked more bemused than upset and I didn't want to look over- protective so I said nothing and the running resumed. She said to me, 'He's harmless really!' and gigggled again; I thought, 'He may be when he's 4 but he won't be at 14 if you keep letting him ignore you,' but, of course I said nothing and probably grinned inanely. It must have gone on for about 10 minutes. If ds had been upset I would have done something but he kept waving and saying, 'bye!' when he went past me but it seemed a bit sad - was also doing a funny run (love him so much!) and I felt I should have helped him.

Anyway, I sat down to feed ds2 and she didn't follow. Our 2 ds then came near me and hers pushed mine enough to make him stumble again and I thought he said, 'fuck off,'. I then clearly heard him say, 'piss off' and he pushed him again. I walked over to her and her ds then hit mine in the face. Again, not hard but obviously not a pleasant experience.

I said to her, 'I think ds is bored of running after yours now, can he have the ball back?' She said yes and went to get it, it didn't go well she had to chase him around and he was quite rude to her.

It all looks so trivial written down but it has played on my mind all day. Should I have intervened sooner and should I have told her about the aggression and swearing? She seemed a bit pathetic more than anything, desperate to talk and with no control over son. She wasn't intimidating yet I let her son run rings around mine

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traceybath · 27/06/2010 20:30

Well I think in your situation I would have just removed the ball from the other little boy if he wasn't relinquishing it.

However its tricksy when the other parent appears to be attempting to discipline the child albeit ineffectually.

Just hope you don't run into them again

Lonnie · 27/06/2010 20:31

YANBU Personally I would have said OII we do NOT speak like that to others when the swearing happened but up until then I think that it is a fairly normal situation you didnt do wrong perhaps not perfect parent either but you were a darn sight better than this woman sounds

traceybath · 27/06/2010 20:31

Oh I have also on one occasion walked over to one child whose parents were not watching him and said quite clearly 'I am watching you' as he was deliberately trying to know my DS (about 3 at the time) off his bike.

He soon stopped it.

LaTrucha · 27/06/2010 20:33

Soemtimes you have to seeif it will resolve itself, don't you.

She doesn't sound like she has much of a grip on things and that puts you in a tricky situation. DS did ultimately see you setting things straight for him. It sounds to me like you did fine.

It winds me up when a child is mean to DD, which may be what is playing on your mind. It's always a tricky line to tread.

pjmama · 27/06/2010 20:35

Are you ever likely to see them again? Your DS sounds none the worse for wear for the experience, so I'd just forget about it. Kids have to learn to deal with other kids good and bad behaviour and it sounds like you stepped in before it got out of hand. She probably wouldn't have appreciated you criticising her parenting anyway, and it's entirely possible he's learned those words at home!

SloanyPony · 27/06/2010 20:37

I'm not very good at telling off other kids particularly (well, I am actually, I just dont like it) so I always add lots of saccrine sweet things like "sweetheart" and "darling" etc.

So, "Hugo, dont hit Atticus like that darling, there's a poppet. Do that again and I'll tell your mother, sweetheart" and "now now, Beatrice, I saw you pull Maud's hair, none of that please petal". Etc.

So you could have said "thanks, sweetheart, lets have that ball back and I'll put it somewhere safe, thank you darling" yanking it out of his filthy, chavtastic little handy pandy.

Etc

poppymouse · 27/06/2010 20:44

At times like this I find "What did Mummy say? Mummy said play nicely didn't she?" or whatever, helps if Mummy did actually say something along those lines but you can use a much stronger tone than the other Mum and see it through without seeming to undermine.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 27/06/2010 21:09

Ok - I can see why you are upset, but don't beat yourself up. It was hard one and we've all been through it.

What happened was unfair to your son, but actually, I think you followed your instinct when you saw he wasn't too upset about the ball.

Where I would have intervened more firmly is when he pushed and hit your DS - telling him that pushing is not nice.

It appears from what you say that the other mum hadn't got a grip on her DS, and her weak reaction to him was all in order to avoid other people seeing him not listening to her, or being rude to her, or running away (as he ended up doing).

In principle, I have no problem telling other DCs off, if the other parent hasn't done so. I also do it in a firm but "I'm sure you didn't mean to do that" tone.

RunawayWife · 27/06/2010 21:19

YANBU she sounds a useless parent

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KickButtowski · 27/06/2010 21:32

FWIW you might want to think about what you will do if it happens again and how you could have intervened earlier maybe. Like other posters I would have left the ball thing as you did but stepped right in when he got more physical. I have no problem telling other kids off if they actively interfere with my own because I want my kids to know that I will always stick up for them.

But basically I think you behaved with great dignity in the face of a difficult child and not very helpful nother.

Don't worry about it - your child is not upset in anyway and that is the main thing.

lecce · 27/06/2010 21:33

Some lovely tips here, thanks everyone; particulaly like the sugar-coated orders! I think I am lucky that I haven't really encountered anything like this before, I don't know how in 3 years but, as Stayfrosty says, I think it was the combination of bad behaviour and chummy mummy that floored me.

Will definetely remember some of these tips!

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IMoveTheStars · 27/06/2010 21:43

What Kick said. Big part of it is letting your kid know that you're standing up for them. I'll happily tell another child that his/her behaviour is out of order if they hurt mine (after waiting a few seconds to give the other parent a chance to intervene of course)

Any child hitting/pushing/shouting at mine gets a short 'play nicely please', anything else gets a telling off.

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