how do they expect you to live when everything goes up!!

[mommmmyof2]

I am sooo sick of everything rising apart from mine or my husbands wages!! We struggle at the best of times to get through every week and i just had a promotion and what for....so they can take benefits off us and to be taxed more on it!
I sometimes feel the harder you work the harder it is, i not sure how they expect you to survive these days, and when your children are asking for things and all you ever say is no then you feel like a bad mom

Expat - you may call me anything you want. But please, never ...middle class.

I never called you anything, Lit.

If I had, you'd have known.

board games and water - I advocated a non whinging policy...not that we become mormons.

that's the spirit Ruby.

Oh I don't get it, I think that was a dig at me, not sure why but I stand by my point.

family allowance?

is there an irishwoman in the house?

sorry but I cant bend over and get shafted with a smile on my face...some people must have more practice

There are trade offs in life - you want more pay for the same job perhaps you can but there is a trade off - longer hours, moving area, less security etc.. You don't just get it because you deserve it or prices or going up because somebody else would take that job off you at that pay.

Just take responsibility for what you earn, how you spend and how you live. Sometimes fate deals you some absolute disasters (this happened to me in childhood) but ultimately you are in charge on how you deal with them and how it impacts you and your family.

Barbielovesken, thank you, i no for some people having no money means still having money for going to the cinema! but literally for me and my family when we say we have no money..we have no money.
And to be honest we don't go anywhere, we have had to cut back on so much just to pay the bills, and when your own mom or sister has to buy bread because you can't get any til pay day then there is something wrong.
I am not as bad as some i appreciate that, but when you are a hard working family it does fustrate you. And maybe our families did have it hard but no one can comment and say that it was harder for someone say 30 years ago than it is for us because lets face it, everyones different. Different circumstamces. But we do carry on and get on with it because there is nothing we can do. But thank you its nice to no people share some views with you

yanbu i dont no how they expect us to manage when they freeze our money and put vat up!! they have been very devious here if you ask me!

Isn't the problem that wages are pretty static and in real terms are probably driving downwards because of the effects of globalization? A company needing to run a call centre can choose to run one here and pay the minimum wage to its workers, or run one in India and pay the workers relatively less. It's the pressure of keeping jobs in the country that has meant that wages have not kept up with the cost of living, and is sometimes down to the fact that what the UK makes or delivers isn't unique or special enough to attract a premium price in the global marketplace?

It also doesn't help that resources such as oil, metals, food, etc are becoming a more scarce and expensive comodity that are wanted by an ever increasing global population. We are feeling these global changes less than poorer nations are I am sure, but it doesn't make it any easier!

oops, did I kill the thread?

ha no just think people have said what they think, don't think it was you personally

Yes, but Riven, the Tories are looking after you! By re-assessing yours and your daughter's DLA because you might be too dependent on the state and need a kick up the jacksie to work .

Who are "they" in the title of the thread?

I will be grateful I mean the tories are battling obesity to I mean think how much weight i will lose when I can't afford to eat

Expat.

The thread title says that 'everything goes up'.

Well yes, housing costs, fuel bills etc have gone up. But lots of other things have come down.

Which is why most of us have a much better material lifestyle now than at any time in history.

It's not about hectoring or lecturing the young - I'm 39, not exactly ancient - it's a direct response to a thread title that isn't actually right.

I don't think it's patronising at all to point out that the last decade or so has been an economic anomaly. It's easy to forget - sometimes when I watch news reports about the economy I'm like 'shit, that puts things into perspective' etc.

Yet people think that lifestyles should only ever get better, into infinity. It can't always work like that.

'Which is why most of us have a much better material lifestyle now than at any time in history.'

And?

Shall we got back to black and white TVs and outdoor toilets?

The past is just that.

I don't see what is aspirational about wanting move backwards instead of forwards.

So no interest in actually answering my post then expat. Read the thread title: 'everything goes up'.

No it doesn't. Many things are cheaper and more available now than at any point in history.

It's a direct response to the thread title and OP.

Also, I can't see anybody here saying that the older times were better - I certainly amn't. I'm glad every day for broadband, mobile phones, affordable clothes, large bras in colours other than beige, as much beer as I want, pregnancy tests 20p on ebay, skinny milk in starbucks etc etc etc.

I'd hate to have lived my mother's life. I'm just saying - everything doesn't go up!

But morris - it's the cost of essential items rising that is going to make it much harder for people. People can live without widescreen TVs, Sky and cpmbi oven microwaves but they need food, fuel, a roof over their head.

I agree that the thread title is misleading, but I think we all understamd the sentiments of the OP surely?

Why was I supposed to answer your post directly, Morris, when it was not posed as a question but a statement?