I've planned a lovely day out for my dh's first fathers day tomorrow. Hes a wonderful father who dotes on our ds and I'm really excited about treating him to a family day out. However all the planning has got me thinking about my relationship with my own dad who, to be frank couldn't care less about his family. He doesn't ever call me, forgets my birthday every year and has never met my ds (his first grandchild). He always seems pleased to hear from me but never makes the effort to get in touch, promises to call but never does and generally just lets me down. I have a brother who has exactly the same treatment from him. I haven't sent him a card because I don't think he deserves one but I know he'll be moaning about me and calling me names to anyone who'll listen tomorrow. Not sure what the question was really, I think I just needed a rant! I know he doesn't deserve his children but it still hurts, hes still my dad.