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Fuming - fraud in families and friends WWYD?

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SoVeryCross · 17/06/2010 21:22

Have had to namechange for this one. I'm so cross I'm shaking and need a little advice! This may not be the right area for this post but I need some replies.

Right, my mate got his GF pregnant. She used the pregnancy to keep him with her despite him begging her for an abortion (classy guy eh?) and telling her he wasn't ready to be a dad. When the child was just a few months old decided neither of them wanted the child and sent them to my mate's mum to live. Mates mum struggles as it is, with money and now a baby. I know his mum and she's a total love will do anything for anyone, but she's a doormat. They refuse to pay a penny towards their child, see them or do any kind of child care. The poor child knows mummy and daddy don't want them. Mates mum has been claiming child allowance, and has just found she is eligable for a further payment in child tax and working tax. She filled in the forms and was told there was an "anomoly" and had to go for a security check. Turns out that "someone" is already claiming for this child. Yup, it's the birth mother. She and my friend both claimed they weren't recieving any money for the child that lives with my mates mum but it turns out they've been claiming the whole time and never gave his mum a penny.

I'm sickened by my mate (well, mate no longer). How could he do this to his kind hearted mother? They claim they need the money but having seen their lifestyle they really don't. Neither of them work through choice.

Do I a) keep well out and let them sort it out, b) go straight to income fraud and dob them in, or c) give my ex-friend one chance to alter the payments himself and just threaten to go to fraud?

Sorry for being vague, don't want to be outed.

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WellMeantHellBent · 18/06/2010 10:21

GM really needs to sort out legally that she has the child, before claiming money or starting an investigation. The 'parents' can take the child back when they realise they won't get money for her and GM won't be able to do anything.

Person I knew this happened to was a colleague with a 18 year old drug addict daughter and 2 year old gran daughter. 18 year old kept leaving the child and was not a legal agreement, until the GM started struggling to pay for nursery as she worked and realised she couldn't claim for money as it was already being claimed for. It is all sorted now but she left and I am not sure what happened

WellMeantHellBent · 18/06/2010 10:22

GM really needs to sort out legally that she has the child, before claiming money or starting an investigation. The 'parents' can take the child back when they realise they won't get money for her and GM won't be able to do anything.

Person I knew this happened to was a colleague with a 18 year old drug addict daughter and 2 year old gran daughter. 18 year old kept leaving the child and was not a legal agreement, until the GM started struggling to pay for nursery as she worked and realised she couldn't claim for money as it was already being claimed for. It is all sorted now but she left and I am not sure what happened

WellMeantHellBent · 18/06/2010 10:22

Sorry!

Mumcentreplus · 18/06/2010 10:25

well CTC is a top up of CB...but tbh the parents may think that the fact the gran receives the CB is her payment for the child...and they claim for the CTC

SoVeryCross · 18/06/2010 11:57

Wow ty for all your replies! I have been told gran has got legal guardianship. Mum signed papers apparantly so that she can't just take baby back.

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marriednotdead · 18/06/2010 12:13

In that case, she can claim for the lot as the guardianship is proof of the child residing with her surely

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