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AIBU?

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To consider moving my DS to another school?

44 replies

Xavielli · 17/06/2010 16:34

DS is in the foundation stage at his school. His class consists of 16 other kids. A few things recently have started bothering me;

Firstly: I go to collect him one friday afternoon and he is stood in his wellies forlornly clutching one of his school shoes, there are 4 or 5 girls sat around crying because, whilst they were playing outside, a little boy in there class had been throwing shoes on the school roof. When I arrived there were 5 staff there, and it concerns me that this 4-5 year old boy was able to go a good 20 metres away from the rest of the class collect the shoes, go back out and throw them on the roof (and considering the amount of shoes he managed to get up there I'm guessing he was able to do this more than once) without any of the staff noticing him/his absence.

The next week: Collect DS in the afternoon, he's wearing his sun hat, we get home, he takes off the hat and there is about a 2 inch bruise just above his temple. Now I don't wrap my son up in cotton wool but surely someone should have mentioned a bumped head of any kind? Mind you there have been 2 times where I have taken him in the morning and his teacher has said 'Oh forgot to tell you yesterday, DS was bitten by another pupil, could you sign this please' - I wasn't so bothered about this at the time but it just another niggle.

Wednesday: School trip, I had specifically asked the teacher on Tuesday whether they had to wear uniform for the trip and she said yes. So when we arrive at the school on Weds morning to find that DS is the ONLY one in uniform I was absolutely gutted for him, and did say to one of the teachers that perhaps a little more comunication was required in things like this so the kids weren't made to feel left out in such a way.

This morning: Yes ok, I was a little snippy about the school uniform thing yesterday, I am 20 weeks pregnant with DC3. DS was upset that I'd asked him to put his hat in his draw when we got to school (he gets like this when I drop him off, he is very quick to cry, which he gets from me) his teacher asked if she could have a word, I could feel myself being wound up by DS and said politely that maybe we should keep it for another day as I didn't think I could deal with it this morning. DS then gets really upset that I won't talk to said teacher. I'm knelt on the floor telling him I will talk to Mrs X another day, Daddy was picking him up (something for him to be excited about) and that there was no need for him to be upset about anything - meanwhile, Mrs X has taken hold of DS's wrist and is saying 'Come with me DS, we'll have a look at the pictures from the school trip' and starts dragging him away.

I took his wrist back and said 'I'm not finished. Let me deal with this, I am capable' she said she didn't feel it was something that needed dealing with and that she was trying to help - I'm afraid the old pregnancy hormones may have taken over entirely then (I was already crying with rage) and I said 'you may be trying to help but you just come across as patronising and I'm getting sick of it' (She is a good teacher, the kids love her, but having spent so long with 5 year olds she has obviously forgotten that people don't generally appreciate being spoken down to)

Surely when a parent is talking to their child you don't try and drag the child away? No matter who you are. I would be livid if even my own mother, or DS's Dad did this. How dare she undermine my authority like that? What if he now thinks he doesn't have to listen to me at all, and if he doesn't listen about the little things is he going to listen when I tell him not to run out in a road or anything else dangerous?

I know this whole thing may be overshadowed by pregnancy hormones. My DD is going to be in this woman's class in september and I'm just not sure if I,

a) trust the school
b) trust her.

OP posts:
Blu · 17/06/2010 18:24

I think teachers like to make a clear line between saying goodbye to parent and being in the class. You were presumably in the classroom fussing about the hat...just send him in!

As for the bruise, kids often whack themselves in the heat of play and barely notice it - if he had needed any treatment, cold compress or something, surely you would have been told?

As for the shoe throwing - do you know exactly how it happened? When DS was in Reception the school held a Teddy bear's picnic, all the kids brought their bears in...at home time the Caretaker was up a ladder rescuing several bears from the roof, while anxious faces peered on....

School is a big rough and tumble place. Unless your child tells you he is unhappy, assume he is happy. You seem to be looking for problems and communicating this to your child.

nowherewoman · 17/06/2010 18:26

You sound a bit overwrought, tbh.

unfitmother · 17/06/2010 18:31

YABU, apology to patronising teacher required.

bealzebub · 17/06/2010 18:33

why wouldnt you have a word with teacher?
and 20 weeks pregnant, you are only half way there! for goodness sake.

you could of course change schools but you would always ahve somethign to complain about with your current attitude.

bealzebub · 17/06/2010 18:36

oth i agree how upsetting the school uniform would have been plus the bruise but you do need to lighten up, too much mumsnetting i fear

williewalshsballs · 17/06/2010 18:37

is there more to this op? if not yabu

Littlefish · 17/06/2010 18:37

YAB completely unreasonable to consider moving your ds over these issues.

helyg · 17/06/2010 18:38

I think YABU, but I can understand why. The combination of pregnancy hormones and your PFB going to school is a pretty lively one!

I was a bit like you when my eldest started, but I've got more relaxed about stuff as time has passed (DC3 is now in Reception).

autodidact · 17/06/2010 18:44

Oh dear! Agree with blu.

Think you owe the teacher an apology tbh.

Blu · 17/06/2010 18:51

TRy not to feel too stressed up about this - it honestly doesn't sound as if you need to move schools, it sounds as if the teacher doesn't necessarily have a parent-frendly manner - many very good ones don't. FWIW, I don't think she should have persisted with telling you it wasn't something that needed dealing with - just as I don't think you should have grabbed his wrist when she started to lead him away - the poor child was being pulled by both of you!

Anyway, make the appt to talk about whatever it is - it sounds as if that is what is really upsetting you - tell her you were feeling a bit overwrought this morning, and breze on forwards.

colditz · 17/06/2010 18:54

You need to wind down.

And I speak as someone very hormonal right now, and very easily wound up.

Try very hard to put this in perspective, which is I think what the other posters have been trying to help you do.

marcopront · 17/06/2010 19:58

Why was your son upset about being asked to put his hat in his drawer?

I also think she was trying to help you by taking DS away. My DD had a meltdown the other morning about me not allowing her to bring a toy into school, her teacher distracted her and that calmed her down, I was very grateful.

sparklingchampagne · 17/06/2010 20:16

To be honest, I feel for the teacher. She was probably only trying to help, you had already said that you didn't want to speak to her as you couldn't deal with it at the moment, so she probably thought that trying to distract your DS so that you could leave would be helpful to you.

Pregnancy hormones or not, nobody deserves to be spoken to like that, especially in front of children and (probably) other parents. That poor teacher then had to go into school and teach 30 children, how do you think she felt for the rest of the day?

If you do need to speak to a teacher (and do if you are concerned about anything - they will be able to put your mind at rest) then make an appointment where you won't be disturbed - it's always difficult at the beginning/end of a day.

Behaving like that in front of a 5 year old simply teaches the child that it's OK to scream and shout at people - and it's not.

woahwoah · 17/06/2010 20:31

Wow, I think you need to apologise to that teacher! YADBU
First of all you refuse to speak to her when she asks to have a word (what would you think if this was the other way round?); then you get snappy and call her patronising, when she was just trying to help .
She was undoubtedly trying to get your DS to come with her, to distract him from his upset over the hat, and she was probably trying to bring the incident to an end so she could teach (ie, she wanted you to go home but was too polite to say so).
The other stuff (shoes, bumps) etc is not ideal, but part of school life. Normally, I'd say to you to have a friendly word with the teacher about the incidents, but actually I think you should leave the poor woman alone (after you've apologised).
If you send your child to another school, there will be similar incidents at times. It's the nature of school life that not everything is as perfect as you would like it. I think you are being a bit PFB.
You may be hormonal, but what about that teacher? How do you think she felt? She then had to go and teach all day, putting on a cheerful face, and I'll bet she's fretted about what you said since. (Yes, I do speak from experience - I'm a Reception teacher with a far better memory for unkind comments than all the nice ones, sadly ).
All I can advise is a sincere apology, and smile a lot at the teacher in future!

AgentZigzag · 17/06/2010 20:32

You didn't get a flaming Xavielli, but were answering as though you had. The posters on your thread said YABU on this occasion, but I'm sure you're as reasonable and calm as the rest of us would like to be most of the time.

Hope you're OK (a friendly one)

GypsyMoth · 17/06/2010 20:39

pick your battles...there will be lots!! and this isnt one

agree,you need to apologise to the teacher

laydeestardust · 17/06/2010 20:51

Hi OP , I'm truly, truly not "flaming" you I promise but please please please apologise to that poor teacher. Poor woman having to then teach the class probably feeling like bursting into tears. Lets hope she didn't have any rogue hormones herself that day.

Ask yourself this, if she had herself unbeknownst to you been pregnant/pmtish or menopausal would you have been completely accepting of her being rude back to you??!

Pregnancy hormones are a bummer but they are not and have never been an excuse for simply being rude and unpleasant which I think you were on this occasion.

flootshoot · 17/06/2010 20:59

Xavielli, I think you are being a touch oversensitive.

You are pissed off that the teacher tried to distract your crying child (which is perfectly reasonable), but you were quite happy to tell her she was patronising and you're 'sick of it' in front of your son?

You say that you were almost crying with rage, but I can't see why she angered you so much...?

It sounds like you're feeling hormonal and tearful (we've all been there!!). Have some chocolate, relax, put your feet up and apologise to the teacher tomorrow.

DandyLioness · 17/06/2010 21:10

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