to think that the amounymt of junk food in the supermarkets is f*cking RIDICULOUS

[sallyseton]

whole AISLES dedicated to sweets, chocolate, crisps, cakes, biscuits etc!!! is sthere something wrong here or is it just me?

no wonder half the country's fat if every time we go shopping we're bombarded with all this. packaging is often designed to be most appealing to children, too.

there's an argument that supermarkets promote this food as unlike say, a potato, these foods do not go off quickly. so it is more profitable for them.

i am not a food nazi, i like chocolate etc as much as anyone else, i just think the choice on display is ridiculous and we all as a country probably eat too much of it.

there's a very good argument that says that if you want cake or something, you should make it yourself. that way you can see what goes into it (and no additives or preservatives) but because of the hassle involved it really will be a treat. i might try it.

oh, and nefore anyone flames me over using the word "junk" food, yes i do believe that the kind of preservative filled crisps etc you find at the supermarket are junk food, almost no nutritional value, unlikely to fill even the smallest
child up, abd the packaging will be thrown away and fester away in the earth, certainly not biodegradable.

i do feed my child crisps btw, but the
slightly healthier "baked" ones, and i am certainly not
judging anyone, feed your child anything you damn well please i just dont think we should have such a surfeit of crap in the supermarket!

ps i bought some light mayonnaise yesterday, it had a little sticker on it saying it was a good source of omega 3 and 6. MAYONNAISE!!! you have to be f*cking kidding me. these food companies are all damn immoral liars.

If you want to start making your own bread ilove, I found the book Dough to be excellent.

I make DS's lunches with the milk loaf and add seeds and stuff, he loves it.

Oh, thanks! Will give that a try...

I agree it's moderation in all things.

If suddenly a law was passed that we all had to eat Gillian McKeith-style food - mung beans and quinoa (sp?) I think I'd lose the will to live. Certainly I'd be dreaming about Krispy Kremes (which are absolutely delicious, by the way, especially dunked in coffee....)

You know the US supermarkets are not all bad. Take Whole Foods or Trader Vic's. It's not easy to find a really bad product in either store. They stock loads of organic produce (and as is the way with healthy shops, a great pile of psuedo-scientific herbal remedies and loads of vitamins - subject for another thread!), and have really great wines, fresh fruit, quality cereals without all the sugar and so forth. But my goodness are they expensive places to shop.

Although, most American health cereals contain substances such as "dehydrated natural sugarcane" and "hi-fructose corn syrup" and then claim to be low sugar. Hmm...

One time, however, I was in Whole Foods in Henderson, NV, looking for fresh cream in the fridge. All I could find was canned stuff that sprayed and what not. I asked a young emo assistant where the normal cream was and he pointed to the can of whipped cream. "What do you want it for?", he asked.

"I am going to whip it for a dessert".

"This one is already whipped"... It was like Spinal Tap.

all this talk of baking own bread has got me inspired think im going to get the loaf tins out and get baking!!!
gramercy mmmm krispy kremes thank goodness the nearest krispy kreme shop is about an hours drive away from me, not tried it dunked in coffee though, something i will try soon i reckon!

Snobear - "As for the people buying 12-packs of walkers for their slovenly offspring at Iceland? Forget them, we can't save everyone."

We can hardly just forget them if we're all going to end up jointly paying for their years of medical treatment for avoidable obesity-related illnesses.

well 12 pack of walkers is only 3 packs each in this house.........so one pack every other day (or more likely 1 every day for the first 3 days and then none until i've been shopping again )........so it's hardly a lot of crap per mouth.

And I feed 4 mouths for £60 a week (was feeding 5) perfectly possible to do it, and healthily too. And that £60 includes all my cleaning, toiletries, and nappies too.

Well you are better than me toccata

But we all eat different things due to dietary restrictions/fussy eaters...so maybe that is why I find it difficult on £60!

ASDA wholemeal flour 98p
Waitrose wholemeal flour 99p

tesco/sains value 17p...

Butter
Asda, 1.17
Ocado 1.20

tesco/sains value 88p...

Bananas
Asda £1 for 5
Ocado 99p for 6

tescos value is 1.42 for 1.5 kgs which is many Bananas

Marmite
Asda 2.27
Ocado 2.27

don't know. can't even bring myself to google it >i am of the 'hate' camp<

Ocado do not, i believe, do value.

Depends on your definition of value.

They arrive on time, drivers are nice, they take it right down the back to the kitchen, no stupid substitutes and if they do fuck up they credit the price right back onto your card as soon as you make them aware.

Might not be cheap but certainly good value IMO.

We have nothing out here but a small Morrison's or an even smaller Co-Op.

Otherwise, it's an expensive journey closer to Glasgow, where there is: Tesco, Lidl and FarmFoods.

Best investment I made was a used chest freezer.

just say no

What gets me is the labelling... a whole aisle in Tesco with 'kids cereal', ie everything covered in sugar! . And don't get me started on using the word kids (with or without an apostrophe)rather than children.

They only provide what people want-if they didn't buy them they wouldn't stock them!
No one is forcing you to buy it.

We live in a free (market) country - supermarkets can sell whatever the hell they like, in whatever proportions they desire. Ultimately it is all driven by the consumers and what they actually buy.

This statement is a little on the dodgey side as supermarkets don't stock what we want to buy - they sell us what they want us to buy and choice has gone, also the supermarkets sell the shelf space so if a particular company is not paying enough then the stock will not be sold in prime shelf space or the product will be dropped alltogehter -for example cambells soups - look where they are placed on the lowest shelf in both asda and sainsbury and out of the way. At one time they had no shelf space in sainsbury at all.

So if a large manufactoring comapny has a new product and they want to sell sell sell they will position and buy the best space on the shelf in the supermarket and thereofre as long as you have the money...

YANBU but then if people are buying the stuff then there's a demand for it obviously. Like myself . Not great eating all that crap but sometimes you feel you need it. PMT always ideal or when pg. Nothing wrong with the occasional binge on junk food.

Good point Sally!

i get the personal responsibility advert. i do. but look at america, a country founded on personal rebloodysponsibility, and what do you see? obese people running around shooting each other. not all of them, not even the majority, but the highest percentage in the world.

"Ocado do not, i believe, do value"

The cheapest item is not necessarily the one that offers the best value for money. People confuse the two all the time.

"Good food honestly priced" - isn't that the Waitrose tagline? I'm not foolish enough to believe they are all saint and the others are all sinner, but I do think there is a lot of truth in their tagline. It doesn't make me shop there, but it does make me question the cheap prices I see in some supermarkets.

I think what we all want is good food honestly priced - I think the most annoying thing about junk food is that it is the cheap option, and that is why obesity is rife. Yet it is so much more processed and involves so many more stages in the factory than a piece of fruit or veg that you have to wonder how on earth a packet of biscuits is the same price as a banana. It's not the banana that is priced too high; it is the biscuits priced way too low.

If food was honestly priced, things would change.

I'm off to eat digestives biscuits and fresh strawberries for pudding while I ponder

Sal
Put the crap down!!!

Sno makes some good points.
What depresses me is the amount of time and energy wasted-both by buyers and producers.

FGS, who needs 30 different brands of yoghurt or 15 of juice.
It's all a variation on basics of meat, dairy produce, cereals and fruit and vegetables.

My general rule is..buy with abandon (funds permitting) if product not fucked about.

HJUst ask everytime you pick something up
'Has somoeone fucked about with this'?

If so, return to position.

LMFAO!

'Has someone fucked about with this?'

I don't know where people find it cheaper to buy food that has been fucked about with, tbh.

How?

Fucked about with things much dearer.

Don't want it - don't buy it. Simples.

The last time I looked Supermarkets sold fruit and veg, including organic and free trade. Meat and fish. Bread. Dried pasta. Rice.

No one runs up to you and hits you over the head until you buy crisps. But I do buy them. And I want to keep on buying them. I don't want them to become some difficult to get hold of substance because some twat eats them for breakfast.

What makes me laugh is the aisle called 'healthy food', what does that say about all the other products?

And ROFL at the chocolate mousse & squirty cream coming out of one's nose - I must try that sometime