to wonder why the council is giving the ...

[drloves]

...neighbours from hell a new kitchen as we speak... when they destroy everything in sight , cause trouble. and generally dont pay for anything. They will just break it and get another one within the year.they had doors replaced 3 different times.
the police is never away from them and the son reguarly assaults people,steals things.
They are stinking feral scum and i resent that my council tax is paying for them to have this when everyone else who is a tennent must wait.
Why doesnt the council give the little old lady through the wall a nice new kitchen,?. she needs one , shed look after it . why put the scum first?.

im annoyed - aibu?

do you live in council housing, too, housingmanager?

want to swap with us?

i've got a supply of tranqs, just waiting to see who's the next thug they move in below us and whether he'll OD or get murdered first and how long that will take.

there's no 'council' here, it's all been transferred to a housing association.

any time someone flytips in the communal areas, graffitis the outside, or leaves a flat all trashed out, we all get a bill for it.

not as part of our rent, but separated to that.

'Everyone seems to admire discipline as long as it is for someone else.'

we're social housing tenants and we wouldn't mind one iota if they 'disciplined' us as much as the next person anymore.

the OP is a council tenant, too, hardly someone living the middle class lifestyle.

sorry, evenmore, not anymore.

bring it on! put the smack down!

cool.

15 out of 19 murders in the past 11 weeks in our police district have occured at the scene or just outside drunken house parties in social housing.

i'd be glad if the landlord forbade them altogether and instituted a three strikes and you're out policy for loud music after 11PM.

yanbu. i don't think 'scum' is an appropriate description but i think if i lived next door i'd feel pretty frustrated too

shame my brothers flat seemed to have escaped the "decent homes" standard, how he lived with that kitchen and bathroom for so long I don't know

your council tax isn;t paying for it - your tax - may be indirectly paying for it as the money comes out of the rent paid by resident - so if they aren;t working this could be throughbenefits iyswim.

i dont know why your council doesn;t prosecute and evict them - they sound spectacularly shit tbh.

as a neoghbour i hope you are filling in diary sheets, are prepared to go to court. phone the police, phone the environmental health and make regular reports to the council - acting on their formal COMPLAINTS policy when they dont.

are you sure this is a council property - and not a ;used to be a council' property

there are plenty around here that are still single-glazed, too, toc!

oh, and i won't get started on Glasgow Housing Association.

ours got a new toilet because some kids broke in whilst it was vacant and smashed up the old one.

the heaters. oh, man. it was a cooooolldd winter.

that week I spent with my FB 2 years ago in January, was SOOOOO cold, 14th floor flat, you could feel the wind through the windows, was bitter.

I'm actually quite looking forward to staying with him for 2 weeks in August now he has a new bathroom and kitchen

mind I don't know if I told you. but he was in a financial mess, had been waiting to be declared bankrupt, he had his letter the other week. So now he's counting down the time until he's discharged (apparently it's shorter in Scotland????) and then he can start thinking about getting himself out of there

YAY, toc. that is good to hear.

it will be such a relief to him, i'm sure.

it will be when we leave this place, too.

yes was actually genuinely pleased for him when I heard (you know we don't speak much these days) he's been stuck down there in Moredun in that scummy block of flats for so long he deserves better than that (even if he has been a twat in relationship to me/exH splitting up)

Scum. Totally agree with your description, does seem a bit unfair to scum though.

How about dirty, violent, hell raising, filthy, thoughtless pieces of mouldy shit who make life worse for everyone in contact with them.

Yadnbu

ah well the neighbours "child" is a 16 year old thug who damages the building by taking a hammer to it, smashes car windows , puts holes in sheds and has broken all my childrens garden toys... he als has broken the garden boundry fence so his dogs can use my garden as a toilet.
Poor defenceless wee lad thaat he is , was in trouble because his fist accidentally bounced off my daughters boyfriends face the other week ... aparently the "voices" told him the lad was talking about him.
He carries a knife.
it is a council flat ...as is mine.
do you want to live next to them?
Housing Manager , where abouts are you ? im in east scotland ...mabey the "rules" are different?

i'm in west scotland. sounds like your neighbours and some folks round here would have much in common.

they could all get together and get drunk and high and kill each other, as if there isn't enough of that in the country.

five doors away is the murdered chap's mate, whom i ran into just a couple of evenings ago carrying an air rifle.

dont you MNers in scotland have a police force to assist with these neighbours??

Sure, iLove. They do just what they do in England, where, as up here, the law is an arse and the police are bound by it: the take a report, they tell them to turn the music down (then leave and the gits turn it back up), etc.

No one really cares about anti-social behaviour unless they either live with it or have done in the past.

housingmanager - I work in social houising too. Take a tenant to court and the judge won'y evict them if they have kids - no matter if they haven't paid the rent and are making their neighbours' lives a misery.
And yes - astonishing how many times huge rent arrears are paid on the day of a court case.
it makes me feel sad for all the decent people who try to lead their lives in social housing.

Dh1 works as a builder for a letting agent and he maintains and renovates their houses/flats and so on.
I used to work with him.
Some are let out to HA and a lot of these are re done and re done over and over because the people in them live like animals.
Smashed windows, Holes in doors, units smashed, sinks smashed, filthy ruined carpets and on and on......

We had arrears once we didn't realise we'd racked up after DH quit his job to stay at home with DD1 and I took on a FT job to provide for us.

We completely freaked and showed up at the meeting with chequebook in hand, ready to pay.

The lady was so nice and when we wondered why, she said a lot of times she got no end of abuse off people.

We had neighbour from hell in that flat who, I think this is probably the only way to get someone out, failed to pay council tax (in Scotland, even on full benefits, you have to pay some council tax every month as the cost of water and sewage is rolled into the bill).

They sent the bailiffs and he did a bunk.

Councils are stupid.

My mother has a lovely two bedroom family house, would be lovely for mum/dad/2 kids.... nice big bedrooms massive bathroom and 150 foot garden, families are crying out for houses like this....

HOWEVER not only does my mum live alone, she is confined to a wheelchair and can not get upstairs at all so lives in the downstairs rooms, she can not get in to the back garden and it took 16 months for the council to put a ramp at the front door so she could get out of the house... council will not transfer her

runawaywife , your poor mum could be doing with a nice bungalow with patio doors for easy access. the council have some up here.... most are let to single blokes with herion habits !

expat i used to live in eastend of glasgow in a notoriously bad housing estate ... there i had no trouble with neighbours ....but there was gang fights on a regular basis so we moved up here (partly work , partly wanting nice place for the kids to live).. . .sometimes i wish i could swap my neighbours , for the ones i had then.

My mum has loony neighbours too.
When she first moved in the woman next door knocked and ask my mum where those your grandchildren that were here?
Mum said they were (we had all been helping with the move and mum was not in a chair at this point)
The woman next door then told mum to be careful when the boys were visiting as her sons were "unwell" and liked children
Turns out both of them have done time for sexually abusing children!
My children have never stayed with my mother in the 9 years she has lived in the house I wont let them.

I would love for my mum to be moved closer to where I live (much better area too)

YANBU. Our old neighbours (non working, drug dealing "chaotic" lifestyles you get the idea) were given a great ground floor flat with a gorgeous cute garden in central London. Within a few months the garden was a fetid rubbish tip, full of dog shit and totally unuseable. I knew so many hardworking families who would have adored to have had even a bit of outside space which was at a premium in that area. Its hard to understand sometimes...

trouble is this sort of low life like to scream human rights innit!

I know how you feel runaway and op. My mum lives in a lovely 3 bedroom house. We applied for a grant to get a stairlift. They suggested moving into a bungalow so they didn't have to fork out for a lift.

So far she has been offered two bungalows. One in a rough area where people have stolen lead from roof.

The latest one was more promising until we had a look on the outside. We are talking furniture in garden, bonfire remains and great big holes and uneven patches in garden. As somebody with a history of falls she couldn't even use the garden. I dread to think what the inside is like!

I am guessing that much of this damage was due to the previous tenants and i wonder whether they expect someone to accept a property in this condition or will they put it right.