to think that Police should be doing something more about anti-social behaviour

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To cut a long story short where I live is an anti-social behaviour hot spot. Since we have moved here we have had gangs shouting and fighting in the street outside, fireworks being thrown at windows and people in street outside, objects thrown at windows (when we have complained/asked people to quieten down politely), loud music played from cars so loud it shakes the windows. All came to a head on Wednesday when DH went down to take rubbish out and saw gang of youths beginning to congegrate under DD's bedroom window. Asked them politely to keep noise down as she would be going to bed soon. About an hour later as I am putting her down they started fighting so he asked them out of the window again, no luck, so went downstairs. The youngest youth about 12 seemed to take real exception to DH and became abusive, but relative of one of the youths moved them on. The next night DH on way back from supermarket saw youths again, youngest one again abusive others joining in, but on another level detailing graphically how they would rape our baby. DH very angry and me very distressed. Reported, have crime number, but safer neighbourhoods team told me that they only patrol on foot two nights a week and that they have no cars???? How in the hell do they expect to catch anyone then???

God what vile thugs - YANBU the Police do need to do more to address ASBO behaviour before it escalates

Threatening to rape your baby is a bit more than anti-social behaviour in my opinion. I'd be asking for the police to be pulling youngest one in along with his parents.

Or am I being naive?

They'd have to catch him first, we are not from around here and do not know where they live. Police man we reported to said a lot of the parents round here just don't care anyway.

The police can't parent these kids and a lot of the time their hands are tied - they do a lot of work in the community that never gets recognised and within sometimes ridiculous restraints and amounts of paperwork.

Police I work with send parents on parenting courses as part of their kids ASBOS -

YABU you should be expecting more of the parents and if they don't care I don't know what people expect the police to do?

Be persisitent and call it in every time this child causes you concern.Start recording every incident and how it is affecting you.

persistent!

Can imagine some parents not caring their kids are hanging around on the street, especially if they did the same when they were younger, but to not care that your son has threatened to rape a baby?? That is a whole new level of awfulness for me.

No he probably wasn't being serious but still ... seems a very defeatist attitude from the police.

at him saying he'd rape your baby

That is such a worrying thing for a child to be saying, really disgusting.

Totally agree with scurrys advice.

No you are right he probably wasn't being serious but concerning that a young child is saying such things. Am recording in a diary and have been told to call 999 everytime now. Still if they are mostly on foot then how will they catch them to resolve it, we do not know the parents so cannot do anything ourselves and would probably get in trouble with Police if we did anyway.

I'm so fed up of how anti-social behaviour is dealt with, or not, in this country.

Can you move?

I know it's your home and all but tbh we've moved several times due to loud music playing neighbours.

Do you know if any of the youths live in local authority housing? I would report the incident to the council also, if they are not private as the council has a responsibility with anti social behaviour (and usually employ a specialist coordinator to deal with ASB).

YABU you should be expecting more of the parents and if they don't care I don't know what people expect the police to do?

Kick the parents arses that's what I'd expect the police to do, if they can't control their kids and are producing 12 year olds with a mouth like that on them then they deserve to be punished.

Poor you They sound Disgusting creatures.

Anti social behaviour is so ruddy exhausting isn't it?

Where I live, it's only very mild compared to what you have to put up with, mostly just stupid drunken teenagers.
Apparently it's a "beat priority" though, which basically means the police have a scoot round while the kids are all having their dinner, and they bugger off when they get drunk and start bellowing and throwing eggs around.

I hope things improve for you, I really do.

I do expect more of the parents ultimately they are responsible for the behaviour of their children, but if I do not know who they are how tell them, they may well care but not know what their kids are up to. Surely the Police are meant to actually ensure that they can catch people doing such things and patrolling Tues and Thurs night only on foot with no panda cars available and a 45 minute waiting time if you call 999 for anyone to turn up gives them no chance and us no peace. Hopefully we will be moving in the next few months to another area. Thanks Scurry for the suggestion, will look into it.

Write down what has happened - ideally with dates and time. Keep a log of ALL future events, however, small.

Then go to you local police station. Ask to speak to the Neighbour Hood Inspector. He may not be based at that police station (but at another one close by and you will probably have to make an appointment time to see him). Do not let the staff on the front desk put you off, you have to firm that you want to speak to the inspector.

Tell the inspector what is going on and give him a copy of your incidents. Make it clear to the inspector that if something is not done to address the problem you will be sending the log to the Cheif Constable.

When you dial 999 you are just getting a response officer who is just 'firefighting' on that shift. Once that shift finishes they leave the problem behind. The Neighbourhood Inspector has overall responsibility for an area.

Thanks Flossie, all advice gratefully received.

YANBU at all. Having my own problems with anti social fuckwits

Really hope things get better for you!