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To not be able to stand Zoe in Junior Apprentice?

65 replies

SunFunMum · 03/06/2010 16:15

Feel a bit bad as she is just a kid, but then again seems like just yesterday that I was that age and I wouldn't have warranted any sympathy if I acted like that !

She has this really annoying Gordon Brown-esque mouth thing that she does, plus her incessant interrupting of the others - so rude!

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Nettiespagetti · 04/06/2010 00:28

Awful not coming across well at all! Just like spoiled brat Im afraid

TheChicOfIt · 04/06/2010 08:44

At what age does it become acceptable to "slag" people off then?

Do they automatically become eligible once they become 18?

I think commenting on a 16 year old's attitude is a bit different to saying that someone's DCs are ugly .

SaliMali1 · 04/06/2010 08:51

old thats different but going into the public eye you will get a good and bad press.

ahundredtimes · 04/06/2010 11:25

why do you want to slag someone off in the first place chick? There's a question.

no different - putting something on the internet is putting it in the public domain, and on a popular site in the public eye too.

I don't see why - because you'd done that - you should have to withstand having your dc laughed at and abused or called ugly

it would be v v unkind. Similarly, people on here calling her vile, and saying they want to slap her, saying she needs taking down a peg or two, saying in fact through bitter little teeth that she's no better than she should be. That's v v unkind too

This thread has made me like her more. I reckon she's probably got more courage and chutzpah than some will ever know in a lifetime. And she's got being 16 as an excuse for not showing 'compassion'. What's your excuse?

TheChicOfIt · 04/06/2010 11:38

I don't want to slag anyone off ?

The point I was trying to make is that it shouldn't matter if you are 16 or 60 - I don't think there should be a distinction just because they haven't had their 18th birthday yet.

ahundredtimes · 04/06/2010 11:43

Well I think there should be - being 16 is entirely different to being 60

I'd have thought that was obvious tbh

Buddleja · 04/06/2010 11:47

Oh dear Ladyanonymous i read your post and thought "her youngest son's twin. Isn't he also her son?"

Then I realised you meant that Arjun looked like he could be your youngest son's twin rather than you had twins and Arjun looked like one of them.

I'm not stupid honest.

TheChicOfIt · 04/06/2010 11:48

Ok I take your point, I'll rephrase.

It shouldn't matter if you're 16 or 18 - there is not a world of difference between those two ages, yet at 18 they would no longer be classed as a "kid", so would people then think it was more acceptable to pass comment?

TheChicOfIt · 04/06/2010 11:49

Haha Buddleja, I initially did that too !
To coin an overused phrase "LOL" .

ahundredtimes · 04/06/2010 11:53

Well, I wouldn't, no

There's something vulnerable about that age group- they're still so in the making, not quite formed - hence the experimenting with hair and lipsticks and acting out like they know it all etc. Like dittany says, still so vulnerable, trying stuff out etc

homebirthmummy4 · 04/06/2010 11:54

hmmm, i dont agree with bullying, but as for the age thing, if you want to play adult games........
i really enjoy this programme. the contestants are all hopefully learning what the real world is like from it instead of one which is policed by parents and teachers. sadly the real adult world can be very nasty and bitchy, i know from awful personal experience, it contributed to a breakdown i had. but if these young people are really wanting to succeed they are all going to have to learn to take some often harsh (but hopefully not personal) criticisms.

TheChicOfIt · 04/06/2010 12:08

Oh I totally agree with you re the hair/lipstick thing - I don't think it's nice to pass comment on those things - I myself was a bright red lipstick wearer in my teens .

I was thinking more along the lines of the fact that she has come across as a bit rude, interrupts people etc.

If it were my child acting like that on TV, like someone else said, I think I'd be wondering where I went wrong.

I agree with homebirthmummy4 - I think you've got to be made of pretty tough stuff to go on The Apprentice anyway.

Also, I think the editors of the programme may be partly to blame, as I do think they make certain people out to be "The Annoying Ones".

ahundredtimes · 04/06/2010 12:26

yes, I too wore very bright lipstick! This perhaps at the root of my defence of Zoe. Who knew?

I think you need to be pretty tough too, and I suspect she is a pretty tough and courageous 16 y-old - not many would put themselves in the firing line like she has. Doesn't mean we as adults should feel entitled to line up and take nasty pot shots though imo

I'm not saying nobody should say, 'oh she's such a teenager isn't she?' or 'I wonder when she'll work out it's not so smart to interrupt all the time' or whatever

That's different to some of the more vitriolic unkind opinions about her expressed here

pinkgrapefruitjuice · 04/06/2010 16:26

I agree 100x, Zoe has balls and she makes great tv. Plus she dressed up as a cupcake so she cant be that up herself..

zozzle · 08/06/2010 22:45

Yes she's incredibly confident, but kinda cool and quirky too. Obviously very bright...

Not everyone's cup of tea but I like her.

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