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with in-laws behaviour towards this affair?

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amwellgirl · 18/05/2010 14:51

I have a 1.5y DD and a 4yo DS. DD didn't sleep through until 16mo passing the baton on to DS who has intermittent nightmares. Add illnesses into the mix and I haven't seen a 6 straight hours sleep for 2 years.

January last year I found some emails from a woman at work to my partner. There was a clear intention on her part to make a pass at him. For his part his replies seemed gullible but not with any overt green light. I read them as back then we had open email accounts and was looking for his dad's flight details. I didn't do anything (shocked, firstly, that either of us were remotely fanciable to the outside world being as we had a 6mo and 3yo). I did make silly oblique references like I do know you know.

I asked a friend who works there if she knew of a woman called X. She blanched - then I did - and asked what I needed to know. She said it was common knowledge this woman was infatuated with him and she had picked up a photo of DS and DD on their father's desk said Aw they're sweet but I love him so what can I do? (to which one of her friends had replied don't be so selfish... and then told this mutual friend who I talked with).

Later - I checked his account on purpose this time - there was an email from her implying she had been publicly humiliated and nothing more was written on that thread. I was pleased I hadn't done anything and thought his inner moral compass had worked.

Fast forward 3 months to April last year when - 7 years, a house and 2 planned children later - I asked him to marry me. He said no - after a day - then, when pushed, said he no longer loved me. Then began a year of soul searching, 4 months of him sleeping in the living room, and Relate; during which I learned there was no one else but he had always had doubts about our chemistry and was troubled I had put on weight and the eternity ring he had given me in December for my birthday was just to go through the motions.

4 months in to this period I said he clearly wasn't going to think anything through or change his mind so it was best to begin selling the house. At this point he decided to try again. We holidayed together with friends and things were OK if stilted. We were going to move but he decided we should stay put (a house bought near his work so he could be home in time to put DS and DD to bed). I also talked with his mum and mentioned these emails and she was shocked and swore such a t***p would not be welcome in her house. I said I didn't think anything had happened.

By Christmas he was distant and would sit the other end of the sofa and would leap, as if touching an electric fence, if we bumped into each other in a doorway.

He went to New York on business without leaving flight or hotel details.

On his return, a few days later, I offered him a foot rub after a tough day and he didn't reply but started crying. I went to touch him and ask what was wrong - he jerked away. I said: OK I think you have something to tell me. Now seems a good enough time as any. He said: it wasn't working for him and it never would. So I calmly said: OK then you'd best go. Take the morning or afternoon off work to pack. Be in touch in a week.

That was end January this year. I have bent over backwards to be dignified and tolerant despite occasions where he has refused to evening parent his children on a regular 1 in 3 Friday, whilst he has agreed to pay more than the CSA legal amount it doesn't cover the bills and he won't do a financial analysis to see, he wouldn't say where he was staying. And has generally been defensively aggressive and irritated by anything asked of him.

You can see what is coming I am sure - I couldn't though.

I had asked on occasions if he would afford me the decency of telling me when he met someone. He said he hadn't but was planning to join dating sites. We were going to draw up a template for future partners so expectations regarding the children were clear (his parents split and he has/had views on his dad's girlfriends.)

Anyway TCALSS (or not you may think!) - I found out (he left his email account open on my computer whilst seeing the children - I came back early) he has being seeing the email woman all along. He aggressively denied it even then until I spun the computer round to show him what i was reading.

Best case scenario (i.e. as far as I got to read before he came in the room) is it started the day he left (a random day when I chose to bring up the subject). I was reconciled to him meeting someone new but I am really struggling with the fact he lied throughout and also that he has chosen the one woman who makes the whole thing not alright: the one with scant regard for taking a father from a family. He booked a foreign holiday for him and her 5 weeks after being asked to leave (on a weekend when he could have seen DS and DD) and is, I believe, living with her.

I emailed his parents and sisters to say ... it was an affair with her all along! The tenet of the response

[hope you are still with me!]

is that I am unreasonable basically and must consider the children and that it is a relationship with someone not an office affair with a family breaker as I would like it termed. And they are concerned I am about to restrict his access to the children and must stop hurting the children's relatives (i.e. them) with such emails. No mention of the deceit and lies and lack of prioritising his children.

I am finding it difficult to gain a perspective - I realise you all have my one sided version - but I cannot cope with the lack of acknowledgment that this does change things for me and isn't just sour grapes and I am genuinely concerned that he is putting this woman first (he has left his access days early with no explanation). It also rewrites and makes a nonsense of the whole of last year.

Can anyone help me see a clear path forward? I know how important DD and DS maintaining a good relationship with their father is but I do not want her present during access and don't feel this is an unfair restriction. I also cannot bear the thought of him ever seeing me again although this is difficult given DS and DDs ages.

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Ladyanonymous · 18/05/2010 15:00

"We were going to draw up a template for future partners so expectations regarding the children were clear (his parents split and he has/had views on his dad's girlfriends.)"

This will never work - You need to let go, if you split up you cannot dictate to each other who you are with. All you can do is protect your kids from anyone you feel is unsuitable.

You have to appriciate however hurt you are an pissed off they are his family and will feel loyal to him and want to support his choices. You will never get anywhere by trying to get them to side with you.

Be the bigger person, hold you head high, walk away and move on with you life and let her have his family now.

You can't control when he introduces her (however much you want to and believe me I DO understand that emotion). Do yourself a massive favour and let go now, just concentrate on the kids having a healthy, safe relationship with their father.

They know you are their mum, they love you, and kids are always incredibally loyal.

PerArduaAdNauseum · 18/05/2010 15:02

OK, oouldn't read and not post.

Re access with DD and DS, I'm afraid you can't restrict him from seeing the OW while the kids are there - it's up to him what he does with his time as long as the kids aren't endangered.

And his own relatives aren't going to give you the acknowledgment that you need - that he's been a twunt of the first order - because they're his relatives, so you need to save the indignation for your own family and friends.

And now I've said all that - I'm really so very sorry for your sucky position. Do you have friends and family around? You haven't mentioned any. You need people to be on your side - you sound like you might still be a bit in shock - it's been a lot to take in for you.

I also wonder if you might be trying to cope with everything a bit too soon? However oragnised and in control you might be, you can't just flip over from partnership to single-parent hood without some sort of fall out, and if you're not crying on someone's shoulder the grief may sneak up on you later and be even more damaging.

So don't focus on your ILs or the OW - your ex deserves your scorn but he's punishing himself by giving up on his lovely family. Focus on yourself, spend some time with supportive people you can trust. And have a proper rant on here if you need it - yes?

PerArduaAdNauseum · 18/05/2010 15:03

Oh, and the kids relationship with their father is his business, not yours. All you have to do is provide access, and in the meantime give them the love and stability they need - it's not up to you to turn him into super-dad, so don't feel you should.

Ladyanonymous · 18/05/2010 15:03

....and what PAAN said

PerArduaAdNauseum · 18/05/2010 15:04

And what lady said

ibangthedrums · 18/05/2010 15:05

What an awful time you have had, you do seem to be coping though.

He has acted like a selfish idiot and I don't suppose you will ever know exactly what happened and when, you will have to come to accept this (I know from experience)

You are entirely right not to want her there durign access visits, however you may also have to come to accept over time that she is his new partner - hard as that may seem and so your DCs will have to meet her. He does seem to be putting her first at the moment but that may calm down over time????

I think that is where your in laws are coming from TBH, your ex is their son/brother and they will put him first rather than you. I also know from experience that it is best to rely on your own family and friends in times like this.

Concentrate on staying strong and building a new life

TheGodmother · 18/05/2010 15:07

Couldn't read and not post. I'm so sorry you have been hurt this way, and am impressed with your dignity.

Whatever the ins and outs of his current relationship, just ignore, maintina a dignifies silence . Raise above it and when it all goes tits up in a few months/years, hopefully you wont care, as you will have your own life on back on track.

azazello · 18/05/2010 15:08

I'm sorry. He has been very stupid and selfish and I do understand how it changes everything for you. However, yab a bit u to expect his family to sympathise with you. You don't know what they are saying to him, but it is unlikely to be anything other than a united front towards you.

Is it worth posting on the relationships board to talk it through with helpful people who know what you're going through?

MrsVidic · 18/05/2010 15:16

I am saying this for your own good- let it go- let him go, his family will always side with him- surley as a mother you have to understand this.

As others have said be the bigger person, put your kids first and don't restrict his access ( my mother did this and I will never forgive her)

You tried to make your relationship work but it didn't. Try not to blame the OW as its a selfdestructive path.

get your friends round you and some support from people on your sde IYSWIM

amwellgirl · 18/05/2010 21:13

Thank you all. Thank you for taking the time to read and think out a reply. Much appreciated however hard reading some of it is in my current tender state...

Ladyanonymous - in terms of a charter it wasn't so much who more that no one was expected to be called mum or dad other than us, that new partners would respect and second existing ways we brought up the kids - not introduce new ones ... that kind of thing.

Throughout our relationship his parents would refer to me as their daughter-in-law and - during the soul searching bit - said I would always be so come what may. Silly - as I suppose it can't be any other way than what is happening now - but I obviously held onto that more than it could provide.

PerArduaAdNauseum and MrsVidic - yes I do have good friends and supportive family. Keeping me sane.

If my DS or DD did similar things later in life - I would still be their mother - but I would be gravely disappointed if they lied and disrespected their partner even if that relationship had come to an end. I think I would acknowledge that to the injured party too.

ibangthedrums and TheGodmother thanks for your soft approach. I wish I had been more dignified tbh.

azazello - thank you. This was my first post so I will repost in the more suitable spot you suggested too.

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