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to think that the school should have noticed?Long post - sorry

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greenbeanie · 16/05/2010 21:53

ds, aged 4 went to school on friday. He had been wheezy overnight but was fine in the morning, ate breakfast and was his usual chatty self. When he went through the door his teacher was there and I said could you keep an eye on him, I think he's fine but he was a bit wheezy overnight. I was told yes, no problem.

There was no contact from the school during the day, so I collected him in the afternoon. Instead of running out of the door to give me a hug as usual he walked slowly across the playgroun. All the other mums noticed and said "what's the matter with ds, he doesn't look very well".

When I bent down to talk to him I could see how hard he was work to breath, his chest was recessing and he was grunting with every out breath. He didn't have enough breath to talk to me. I took him straight to the GP and he was put on steroids, an inhaler and antibiotics. It was agreed with the GP that we would try and manage him at home as I have a background as a paediatric nurse. I was up throughout the night giving him his inhaler and checking that he is ok. He is much better today although still a little wheezy.

My concern is that the school did not notice a child who was obviously so unwell - unable to talk and struggling to breath. I know there are 30 children in the class and do not expect the staff to have medical knowledge but do expect them to fulfil their duty of care and notice when a child is that unwell. We narrowly missed a hospital admission. I am going into school to try and see the headteacher tomorrow. Am I BU to think that they did not provide the care that they should have done?

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Mowgli1970 · 16/05/2010 22:04

YANBU. The school has a duty of care, particularly as you mentioned it to the teacher. I'd talk to the head. This happened to my son in December. He was wheezy all day, so they gave him his inhaler but it didn't work. The teacher said she didn't want to give him more as she didn't know if it was allowed. I spoke to the head and to be fair to her she rang me at home and said she'd arrange training for the staff. They had an INSET on it this week. So many kids are asthmatic now, it's considered a minor illness. Not many people know it can be fatal, or what to do in an emergency.

MoonFaceMama · 16/05/2010 22:24

YANBU. Has there not just been a case in the media of a boy who was less fortunate? You'd think they'd be all over it in light of that.

I'm assuming that your ds must have been like that for some time rather than deteriorating on his way from class room to you... Long shot i know but thought i'd best check!

Glad to hear he's that bit better and hope he continues to improve

Cretaceous · 16/05/2010 22:25

Poor lad! I guess whether you are being unreasonable depends on whether or not he deteriorated at the very end of the day. Hope he's better soon.

greenbeanie · 17/05/2010 08:03

Thanks, it's good to hear others opinion and have some support. Yes there was a case of an 11 year old boy who died at school because the teachers did not believe he was unwell.

As for ds I know that he was obviously unwell for a large part of the day. His lunch was untouched and he said that he couldn't manage it because he couldn't breath well enough to eat it!!

I am going in this morning, so I shall see what they have to say.

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FabIsGoingToGetFit · 17/05/2010 08:05

I am so sorry to read this and all I can think of is that poor boy who died because no one would call an ambulance.

YANBU.

You are within your rights to get stroppy and tbh if a teacher and TA can't keep a close eye on a sick child as well as the other children then they need more staff/smaller classes.

IamAllwaysUnreasonable · 17/05/2010 08:07

YANBU, I read that and it made me want to cry, poor little chap.

hocuspontas · 17/05/2010 08:17

I'm not going to make excuses for the school, but now would be a good time for you to impress upon your ds that he must be pro-active with regards to his asthma. If he is in ANY discomfort with breathing then he must get an adult to listen. If they don't give him his inhaler then he must ask again and again. I have been through this with dd3 and it is frightning to think what if...? Schools are busy places and unfortunately lack of communication and other things going on mean that sometimes things slip. You need to go in and explain what they are going to do in the future to prevent this happening again.

hocuspontas · 17/05/2010 08:18

ask not explain...

greenbeanie · 17/05/2010 08:20

hocuspontas, I have had a chat with ds about telling people if he feels unwell as he tends to just carry on rather then tell someone. In all honesty although he has been unwell at night before it has never happened during the day, and this is the worst he has ever been.

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greenbeanie · 17/05/2010 09:15

Just to let you know that I have been to the school and seen the head. She has agreed that the school failed in their duty of care and will review the school asthma policy and put in place training as soon as possible for all staff. I feel quite reassured that she took this seriously - especially as she is quite a scary lady!!

Thanks again for all your responses and advice.

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mumto2andnomore · 17/05/2010 09:22

Well done for going in , hopefully you have saved another child going through the same and Im glad you got a good response from the head.

macdoodle · 17/05/2010 09:27

YAtotally NBU, poor little boy, too short of breath to eat his lunch How on earth was that not picked up!
And he's only 4, you really cant expect him to vocalise especially in a big class of 30
Poor thing, am glad he is on the mend, and the head took it seriously, IMO as a GP, people dont take asthma seriously enough!

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 17/05/2010 09:34

I am glad to hear that the school are taking it seriously - and particularly that the Head admitted how wrong they had got it.

I hope your ds feels better soon, and that you and he are able to make good use of hocuspontas' advice.

hocuspontas · 17/05/2010 16:58

Glad to hear the school have taken the gravity of the situation seriously.

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