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Sainsburys returns?!?

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mummytotwoboys · 16/05/2010 10:13

I recently had a child who turned one and at his party he recieved many gifts of clothing from various places as well as Sainsburys. He recieved a toy from Argos
which he already had, I returned to Argos with no reciept and the only proof it was purchased from there was the code sticker on the box, they issued a full refund.
He also recieved two shirts which were the same from Asda, one of which I returned (no receipt and bottom of tags cut off) they were more than happy for me to exchange
this for something else. I was very pleased as he needed some more items.

I then went on to Sainsburys . . what a different story. I have two items which unfortunatlely my one year old son recieved twice, I thought I would return them, obviously for an exchange as I was without reciept and my little boy needed some socks and some more shorts etc so I was more than happy to do this. The items were a gift so obviously I had no reciept and the prices were cut off the tags, although the tags were still present. Not usually a problem for any of the major stores.

Sainsburys however apparently know best and flat refused to give me any kind of exchange (I wasnt even after a refund) except to change the items for the next size up.
I may have been happy with this had the item been a jumper or trousers. However, Im sure my one year old who will be 18 months in November probably wont want to be
wearing shorts and a short sleeved shirt!!

I fail to understand how they can justify this when there is absolutely no way I would have the reciept, nobody gives out reciepts with presents. I was informed that
the lady who purchased the item should have asked for a gift reciept. I have regularly bought clothes in Sainsburys and have never been offered a gift reciept and if
it is so essential, I would have expected this.

I spoke to three members of staff all of whom were quite unwilling to help. I was then given two numbers to telephone, as I asked to speak to somebody who could help me. The careline, who, while polite and they gave me some nectar points were completley unable to help and
the head office who also apparently cannot over ride the store manager. I asked to speak to somebody higher up and was given two numbers which were useless to me. I
was also told by Head Office that it was at the store managers discretion wether or not they wanted to exchange the item and I would have thought in the case of a one
year olds birthday present he could have excercised that discretion somewhat more leniently. He also asked me to ring the lady who bought the present to try and get the
reciept which was absolutely ridiculous. Who wants people to know when you are returning a present they bought!!

It was implied that I could have stolen the item which not only offended me but also showed the ineptitude of the staff, why would I steal something then come back to
exchange for something else!! If I was going to steal, I would have stolen the item I wanted in the first place!!!

This is very poor customer service and while I understand that in most cases a reciept should be present, I would have thought that in the case of a birthday present or
gift, a little flexibility cuold be applied, even if it is only for an exchange, which to be honest would have suited me down to the ground!

My mother and I and my two children walked out of that store feeling absolutely disgusted. A shame when as we had walked in, my mother commented on how lovely the clothes looked and we agreed that after I had sorted my exchange we would take a good look around the clothes department for our upcoming summer clothes. I also had an amount for my sons birthday which I was also going to spend on clothes for him. We left not spending a penny as I felt I couldnt. what if I lost my reciept on the way home and something didnt fit him!! I also regularly buy gifts for all of my family and friends children from her. Never again!

I was SO disgusted by this, be wary of buying gifts for friends etc as we all like to return gifts from time to time wether they are duplicates (as in my case) or because you dont like them even!!!

Absolutely Rubbish Sainsburys

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MrsWobbleTheWaitress · 16/05/2010 10:16

Blimey! I've only had really good experiences with Sainsburys! Must be your local one.

degreeChick · 16/05/2010 10:23

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mummytotwoboys · 16/05/2010 10:27

they were they still had tags on (although price had been cut off tags coz obivously were a present) they said it had been poicy from feb or something which is exactly what head office said too maybe ill try a different branch then

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mangoandlime · 16/05/2010 10:42

Surprised at Sainsbugs. Was it an own brand product? If it was then they could have been more understanding. If it wasn't an own brand product eg Fisher Price, then they can't really tell if they sold it or Argos, Boots etc did. They don't actually have to offer you anything without a receipt but I think they should have done in the circs.

People come up with all sorts of excuses to obtain refunds, and yes they certainly do steal from the shelves to exchange, given a new receipt with their new item, then go to another shop with the new proof of purchse for a refund. I've seen lots thoughout the years! This isn't to say you have/would do this at all, purely to illustrate it does happen.

I always give gift receipts too. put it in an envelope with the gift. I would rather the recipient were able to exchange or whatever.

LoveBeingAHungParliament · 16/05/2010 10:42

Did you speak to the store manager? If not not i would suggest calling the store and speaking to him. I had a problem in the sains cafe, (I don't like it and didn't want to go however my mum did), ended up having a problem in there and having to get a refund, the cafe manager was a knob. It turned out whilst i was speaking to him my mum had gone to cust service and asked for the store manager. He was fantastic, listened, explained and agreeded plus gave me a gift card with a tenner on it. I am someone who used to deal with customer complaints and he had it spot on.

mangoandlime · 16/05/2010 10:44

Sorry, I see they were Sainsbug clothes. That's odd! Maybe they were in the sale and now an obsolete line?

juneybean · 16/05/2010 10:45

Sainsburys have always refunded me (albeit with a voucher) for clothes without a receipt.

gerontius · 16/05/2010 10:49

YABU. Why should the rules be "applied with leniency" for you?

mummytotwoboys · 16/05/2010 10:50

yep spoke to the store manager who was about 12!! and he gave me head office number as i asked to speak to someone more senior, i ending up talking to someone in a call centre - who was very nice actually but unable to help. Sorry about the long initial post btw just having a rant!!!

They are still in shops at mo and not in sale yet - but the store manager did say there was no way to prove if less had been paid for them

I know they arent literally but i just feel like they are trying to steal from my one year old and it makes me cross

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mummytotwoboys · 16/05/2010 10:51

gerontius - not just me anyone who has had a pressie bought for them - its just a silly policy dont you think?

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TrillianAstra · 16/05/2010 10:52

I think legally they don't have to refund or exchange items unless there issomething wrong with them. Your friend having purchased the wrong size isn't covered.

Still not very good customer service though.

PfftThePinkoLeftyDragon · 16/05/2010 10:55

well they do know best as legally they do not have to even look at them. You don't have proof of purchase.

Usually for the sake of customer relations they will offer an exchange.

This is why I always get a gift receipt, though of course you cannot make others do it.

hocuspontas · 16/05/2010 10:56

I think your judgement is clouded by the extra good service you received from the others. I would have asked if it was possible to exchange without a receipt and would have accepted it if it wasn't. They did offer you the next size up.

PfftThePinkoLeftyDragon · 16/05/2010 10:58

And what difference does the age of the manager make? I was a store manager at 23 - I was very good at my job.

Maybe you were so rude and unpleasant that they decided that they did not want to bend the rules for you! This is a reality in shop work - if you are nice you are much more likely to get an exchange, no-one wants to help a rude and aggressive customer.

gerontius · 16/05/2010 10:59

They could have been a little more accommodating, but you did seem to insist on speaking to a large number of people.

irishbird · 16/05/2010 11:00

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Lauriefairycake · 16/05/2010 11:03

Definitely go to a different Sainsbury's

mummytotwoboys · 16/05/2010 11:06

yeah i think i will - thanks all, i know they dont HAVE to do anything but its nice if they do, if no luck I may do what Irishbird suggests and get in changed for next year.

Thanks everyone for letting me moan!

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Firawla · 16/05/2010 11:58

it sounds annoying & i dont think its too much to ask just to swap it, but if they wont can you swap with a friend or anything, or put on ebay i guess

Jamieandhismagictorch · 16/05/2010 12:07

They wouldn't exchange some trainers which I bought for my son - even for a bigger size (without receipt). They are (I believe) within their rights to do this - eg I could have just picked the ones I had off the shelf, pretended I wanted to exchange them, and then basically got a free pair of trainers, so I can see why they have this policy.

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melpomene · 16/05/2010 12:47

Legally shops are not obliged to offer refunds or exchanges unless the goods are faulty or not as described (that applies even with a receipt). If the shop tells you at the time of purchase that they will offer refunds or exchanges then they are obviously bound by that policy. (They will usually specify that receipts are needed.)

If a shop's policy is to offer no refunds or exchanges for goods that are unwanted/duplicate/wrong size, then you have to like it or lump it. They have the right to refuse refunds/exchanges; you have the right to decide to take your custom elsewhere in future, as the OP did, and shop somewhere else with a more flexible policy.

sayithowitis · 16/05/2010 13:53

It may seem unreasonable to you, but they are well within their rights. The only person who is entitled to an exchange /refund, is the purchaser. You were not the purchaser so they were actually being more helpful than they needed to be.

Why couldn't you have asked the gift giver for a receipt? You could have told them that it was too small and then just said that you exchanged it for something different because of a lack of stock. Most shops these days give gift receipts if you ask.

As for your comment that they had implied you might have stolen it, unfortunately this does happen. I used to work in a shop where we regularly had people trying to 'return' unwanted gifts either for exchange or refund, when actually they had stolen them from a nearby branch. We caught one who had an item of stock that was clearly from our company, but we had not had them in. They claimed it had been a wedding gift 3 weeks earlier. We asked where it would have been purchased and then contacted the store concerned. It turned out that the item was brand new in that day and had been stolen in the morning and by the afternoon they had got the train to our store where they tried to claim a refund. it was an expensive item. I never did know the outcome, but I do remember that the store manager called the police and the couple were taken to the office. So, whilst to you it may be a petty thing, it does actually happen and they need to protect themselves as much as they can, because ultimately, we all pay for stolen goods in the higher prices we pay.

Sorry you are upset about this.

LIZS · 16/05/2010 14:03

sorry, any returns policy unless goods are faulty/damaged etc is discretionary and each retailer will set their own rules about those without receipts. Theft and fraudulent returns have been a huge problem, costs retailers a fortune which is why other prices have to be higher, but unfortunately it is the honest consumer who now loses out.

Agree their contract is with the purchaser not you as recipient fo a gift. It is therefore the giver who should make the return and even then, even with a proof of purchase, they would not be obliged to do anything. You should have accepted the offer of another size or put it down to experience and maybe give or ebay on .