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to end this so-called 'friendship'?!?

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PurpleLostPrincess · 08/05/2010 10:58

I've known this person since we were teenagers, her Dad used to work with my Dad and we lived a few streets away from each other. We always got on OK and have continued our friendship as the years have gone by. Her and her partner are DH's friends too and we've often got together for evenings and had a brilliant laugh. When I had DD2, she fell in love with her and was very supportive etc, but she kept buying her outfits and clothes (DD2 was in and out of hospital for the first six months). One time, she brought an outfit round, then told me it was £8 and did I need change from a tenner, I was gobsmacked!!! I've always said, "you shouldn't have" and stressed it, because we can't afford to buy things for her - we have 3 children to feed whereas she has 3 cats and a dog...

So, last year on her birthday, DH and I were going through an extremely rough time - in fact I had thrown him out because he was severely addicted to cannabis and I couldn't cope with it anymore (long story!). He stayed over there a couple of nights, then in a hotel as he needed to get away from other smokers. I'm proud to say that he has been clean for a year now (apart from the odd joint here and there that I've found out about after but he was smoking @ 20joints a day before). Anyway, I digress, it was her birthday and DH was round there, but things were friendly, so I went round and gave her a card and spent a little while there. A few days later I got a text telling me she felt hard done by because she buys stuff for us all the time but I didn't get her anything for her birthday! I replied saying I thought she would appreciate me turning up under the circumstances, and that I hadn't been in any fit state to go out shopping and had been skint. (which she knew because DH had given them money for food when he stayed over). I got her a few little bits a few days later and apologised.

In the year since then, we haven't seen as much of them - in fact the last time we went round, she sparked up a joint while we had DD2 with us, in the same room!!! We made a hasty exit of course! There have been times when she has needed a lift or something, and I've happily given her a lift, we even lent them our car when I was recovering from my hysterectomy - it was just sat there so it was no cost to us. When she did her knee in, she rang me and I rushed round there and took her to hospital, and took her to the follow up appointments, physio etc. I just thought this was friendship and didn't think twice about it.

So, a few weeks ago, I thought I'd best get her something for her birthday after last years antics. I found a few little things on ebay (not much money wise but I was sure she would like them!). I even checked with her DP whether I should get the fridge magnet or the keyring, he said a keyring... Royal Fail took its time with one of them and it wasn't here in time for her birthday, I was gutted and explained that I was waiting for something to turn up for her.

I should say, that on our birthdays, we are expected to go round there and collect our presents, when I've told her she really doesn't need to get us presents, a card will do. So, her birthday comes, I texted her to say happy birthday, she had previously said she would be leaving the house straight away that morning so I wouldn't be able to drop her pressie off as she wouldn't be there. She replied saying she would be in for the next hour or so - but I had a migraine so couldn't possibly have driven. I knew she was disappointed, and so was I but what could I do!!?? So I said I'd wait for the other bit of her pressie to arrive and drop it off when it did. Then she posted on fb that her DP had got her a keyring and she couldn't believe it as she had just got rid of a load - OH MY GOODNESS!!! After all that, she really didn't want a bloody keyring, but it was of her favourite character so I thought I'd still have to give it and tell her if she wanted me to change it, I'd be happy to.

So, when it arrived, I texted her to say it was here - I knew she was in because she's been having work done on the house so I suggested I pop round with it. She asked if I could post it because the house isn't visitor friendly - I said of course...

So, it got posted through the letterbox inbetween me picking up kids and dropping off stuff and doing all sorts of things as DH has done his back in.

Then yesterday morning, I thought I'd check if she got it or not, but then saw on fb that her status reads something like this: Doesn't know what to say but now knows what some people think of her!!

DH commented saying that I was worried she was talking about me and that we thought she liked the particular character that the keyring was... No reply...

Then DH got a message from her saying that she got me a lovely pair of shoes for my birthday and that she felt hard done by and that it wasn't fair!!!!! We were fuming - I haven't even mentioned all the other things we've done for her, because as far as I'm concerned I don't tot up theses things, friendship isn't about that!!!

I have sent her a message telling her I'm devastated that she thinks that material things reflect what I think of somebody, and whatever happened to 'its the thought that counts', and that I'd rather call it a day because I will not be judged by what I've bought people, I really didn't think she was that shallow and that I'm gutted. Also I'm really hurt that she posted it all over fb - how childish is that!!!!

I'm hurt and angry but writing it out here has really helped, well done if you've got this far lol!!!

AIBU!!??

PLP

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Tootlesmummy · 08/05/2010 18:30

I'd have a face to face chat with her and explain where you're coming from and see what she says.

Set ground rules re not buying you presents and vice versa and cards only. Or come up with something that could be fun i.e. max spend £5 and try and get the funniest thing you can!

If she doesn't get what you're saying and doesn't agree to the 'house rules' then let it fade out.

I'm only suggesting these things as I think she means a lot to you and you don't want to lose her as a friend. Hope this helps.

pigletmania · 08/05/2010 18:34

They are lovely Purple, I would just keep a safe distance from her and dont get too close. I buy presents for people that I am really fond of, but expect nothing in return, just seeing the smile on their faces is thanks enough. I would never buy a present and expect to be paid for it

pigletmania · 08/05/2010 18:35

If I dont feel its appreciated i wont buy a present again, would never tell the person about it so embarrassing. I buy things because i want to and have no expectations, really! If i did i would not buy

SugarMousePink · 08/05/2010 19:18

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PurpleHeffalump · 08/05/2010 20:07

If it were me, I would email her spelling out exactly why you are in the right here (but not use those words!)

  1. Reiterate that you believe friendship to be based on a relationship - not what you buy each other. Remind her of the times that you have been there for her.

  2. That you are very, very shocked at her posting this statue on facebook. That is totally unacceptable and childish.

  3. Remind her that she ASKED you to post it - so how the hell can she be mad at you for posting it?

  4. State again that you spent a lot of time looking for a present that would mean something to her and that you really didn't think she would judge you on how much money you spent but on the thought.

  5. That you do not keep a spreadsheet of what you have bought each other so that you can make sure you are being fair.

I'd then leave the ball completely in her court and only think about continuing continuing the friendship if she appologised and ment it. Not accepting "sorry... but you..." from her.

hugebelly · 08/05/2010 20:26

YANBU.

Do you actually want to be friends with her? Don't rush in to patching up the friendship if there really isn't a relationship.

She sounds rather shallow in expecting material goods. Perhaps rather than spending money on each other, you could spend money together, like going cinema, dinner, drinks......

SolidGoldBrass · 08/05/2010 21:09

Lovey, she's whanger. Just distance yourself. She is NOT REASONABLE and there is no need to feel guilty about it. It;s quite telling that you say she has fallen out with other friends over similar issues. I bet you are a really nice, sensitive, esaily-made-to-feel-guilty person and that's why you're stressing, when a lot of other people would just shrug and go 'Mad cow' and basically disengage.

PurpleLostPrincess · 10/05/2010 20:36

You don't know how much your comments have kept me going the past few days!! I've struggled to think of anything else and have swayed from anger to sadness in equal amounts.

I replied this evening, after having thought long and hard about it. Here's an idea of what I sent her:

"I honestly don't understand - why post something like that on your facebook, indicating that you thought the worst of me, then ask me if I've thought of how it would effect DH and DP!? Did you think of that?! What sort of reaction did you honestly expect!?
I didn't knock on the door because I had a car full of kids and had to drop off DD1's friend and my phone had no battery to let you know. You asked me to post it, so I thought I was honouring your request!!!! I'd been rushing around all day and literally passed out when I got home. This wasn't anybodies fault, it's just the way it was - if you don't know me well enough after all these years, to know that I always have good intentions, then you don't know me that well at all. I may not succeed in those intentions, nobody ever does because nobody is perfect, but you're very quick to point out when I'm not good enough for you!!"

And I've left it at that. I feel at peace with it all now. I just wanted her to know that I only had good intentions, I only ever do. I'm exhausted from worrying about this, but you know what, I've done nothing wrong, so I'm going to try my best not to let this consume me any more. Let's hope it works!!!

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boatgirlie · 10/05/2010 20:46

YANBU! Frankly I would have dumped her as a friend the moment she sparked up a joint in the presence of your DCs, that is simply disgusting! Get rid!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 10/05/2010 20:52

YANNNBU - even if my friends bought me a glazed statue of an arse for my birthday I would never say I didn't like it.

GeekOfTheWeek · 10/05/2010 20:59

Tell her to get fucked.

iamamug · 10/05/2010 21:19

YANBU Fanjo - LMFAO!!! my DH can't understand what I'm sniggering at sitting here!!
OP Ditch the girl - sad she can't have kids of her own - maybe she's a bit bitter and it affects her judgement?? You sound lovely and could do without her xx

PurpleLostPrincess · 10/05/2010 22:06

ROFL, I sniggered too - I have visions of this glazed bum... Thanks for cheering me up

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mw27pink · 16/05/2010 05:19

What about the other side of the story? If PurpleLostPrinces were to be on your friend's shoes telling the story, than how would that go?? You might end up being the one who is not appreciative...There is ablsolutly on doubt in my mind that she has problems of her own, but so do you.. However when friendship get to a sticky point like this,you should either talk togather about it( if long term this friendship means smth to you) or keep steaming inside as you are and quietly pull away- we all need to grow up and mature at times and you can put this down as an experience to learn from ...

scrab806ble · 16/05/2010 06:55

My best friend(yes, I was about 14) once bought me a glazed bum that you stuck a pencil in...didn't like it, but appreciated the thought! She is much more sophisticated now, and doesn't even send cards. Sigh. Not sure which I prefer...

StealthPolarBear · 16/05/2010 07:53

Has she replied to your reply? I don't know why I'm asking, she will never consider she's in the wrong...
I can't believe she brought something for your DD then charged you for it

meatntattypie · 16/05/2010 08:26

hmm, i have been thinking about this allot after reading your story.

I absolutely agree with you and your pov.

When someone is generous it puts the other person in a very akward position because if you are like me, you just cant keep up finacially/time wise nor emotionally.
Yet they seem to give very easily. Its draining to have to reciprocate.

But she are making unreasonable demands on you, and that is far too much power for a "friend" to have on another person.
Good friendships should be much easier than that.

This friendship is now effectively ruined and actually if you look at the big picture and fast forward 12 months, your relationship will never be the same after this will it...how could it be?

My advice, leave it as it is. Leave it well alone now becuase things are likely to just gently and gradually drift away and apart without you doing very much.

Your only tie will be your dp/dh. Hes a big boy, let the 2 partners do what they want with their friendship, but as far as possible, just let this go, and it will believe me.

fast forward 12 months and all will be well, and done and in the past.

SimonCowellIsSatan · 16/05/2010 08:54

Paranoid fucked up pot head?

porcamiseria · 16/05/2010 09:37

have a holiday from her, be busy for a few weeks

if you miss her then maybe give it another go

if you dont, then stay busy

my guess is she will be devastated to lose you , but she needs to learn

PurpleLostPrincess · 16/05/2010 22:19

Thanks, no I haven't heard back from her at all and the funny thing is, I don't miss her half as much as I thought I would. DH doesn't have many friends and it is really sad, but she as ruined this unfortunately. DH is sure that her partner would not agree with her behaviour at all but we'll never know now...

This really was the last straw on the camels back as they say - there are so many other things I could tell you about our relationship over the years that would make your eyes bulge out but the point for me is, friendship isn't about making a list of negative things. I really don't begrudge any of the times we have done things for them and they have done stuff for us too. But this really was too much for me and I'm beginning to realise how toxic she was... so sad really but that's the way it is!

In the meantime, my DC's kids granddad died yesterday (my ex fil) and they are devastated, so this has gone way down on my list of priorities. I'm still very close to my ex's family so I've been supporting my sil etc. who I'm extremely close to. We know we love each other as friends/sisters no matter what we buy or don't buy each other and if we have ever had a disagreement in the past, we've talked it through and got through it properly, like grown ups.

Back to what mw27pink said, yes I agree it should have been talked about, rather than plastered all over facebook - that was the nail in the coffin really! We all have our own problems, and I've never claimed to be perfect; but that was just too much...

I'm rambling now lol, thank you all for your input, I don't know what I'd do without mn!!!!

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PurpleLostPrincess · 29/05/2010 23:43

I just got a message come up on my facebook wall saying, and I quote 'sorry ('

If I'm brutally honest, I've not really missed her at all - every now and then the situation crosses my mind and I feel angry and maybe a bit sad, then I get distracted and move on from it all. My kids grandad died last week and it was his funeral yesterday so we've had far more important things going on than this. He was my fil from my previous marriage and I'm extremely close with my (ex)sil and all the family, so my priority has been to help the DC's and my sil get through it all, while dealing with a toddler and a DH who has mental health issues.

Why am I rambling, sorry! Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts on this - should I respond? I've considered suggesting we get together and talk it through which will give me the opportunity to say how I feel. I've also considered completely ignoring her and just getting on with life. AIBU?

Thanks in advance

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chipmonkey · 29/05/2010 23:55

Seriously, Purple, lose the beeyatch!

She sounds a bit deranged and you really have enough on your plate!

Don't waste another second on her!

colditz · 30/05/2010 00:04

Which option gives you the best feeling in your tummy? Meeting her or ignoring her?

jasmeeen · 30/05/2010 00:10

I wouldn't respond. Just leave it. Not worth the effort.

wukter · 30/05/2010 00:50

I think I got this on an email chain.
Friends come inro your life for a season, a reason, or a lifetime.
I think this friends' season is over, tbh.