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to expect my mother to not be self-centrered for once?

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coveredinsnot · 01/05/2010 15:22

Last week I had a heart scan to see if I have a hole in my heart - it showed that I do have one. I've been ill for around 3 years with some mysterious thing which no one can put their finger on, so while it's not nice to be told I have a problem with my heart, it is also reassuring to know that all this stuff is real and not me being a neurotic nutcase (which some people had suggested!). So it was a bit of bad news, and a bit of a relief as well, but still a lot to take in and a lot to think about. Initially I felt ok about it, more relieved at first, then it suddenly hit me - I have something wrong with my heart which means I'll either have to have heart surgery or take some vile medication for the rest of my life - both solutions, but not massively appealing ones!

My mother forgot all about the scan, but called me later after I left her a message. She denied having forgotten, and said she just hadn't called or sent me a text to wish me luck but had been sending me 'positive vibes' (she had been swanning about London at galleries all day).

Anyhoo, we had a slightly tense conversation about that, then she proceeded to grill me about the ins and outs of the diagnosis, which I really didn't feel like going through in minute detail, but did as much as I could. The next day she tried to call in the morning, but I didn't answer as I was feeling quite miserable (with the addition of PMT - nice timing!) and was trying to entertain my 2 year old son at the same time. So I didn't answer her call. Then she called again, then again, leaving neurotic sounding messages on my mobile and home phone. Then she called my partner at work, who suggested she stop trying to call me for a bit and give me a bit of space (not prompted by me - good on him!), then she got my step-dad to call me and leave a sombre sounding message urging me to call her etc. So I went out to get some fresh air and take my son to the park. I honestly didn't feel like going through it all again with her, she doesn't do sympathy, empathy or anything like that but instead likes to wind me up and tell me to do all sorts of things (write letters demanding earlier appointments, etc) which at that point in time I felt I did not need. I sent her a text saying I was fine but had plans all day and would speak to her later.

This morning I spoke to her, and after a brisk 'How are you feeling?' she went on to tell me in a terse fashion that I really should have spoken to her yesterday. I tried explaining all of the above - that I'd received some bad news and wanted time to think it through in my own way, wanted to spend the day with my son just relaxing, and had felt low in the morning and not up to talking about it all, but all her replied were to do with her and her needs not having been met by my behaviour.

Am I being unreasonable to not have to put her needs first at this particular point in time? I know it would have been nice for us to be able to chat about it, but as she doesn't do chatting, just ordering and winding-up, is it so unreasonable of me to want to shield myself from that? She made me feel like I was a terribly selfish person for doing this. Have I been?

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saslou · 01/05/2010 16:03

Not wishing to be mean, but were you punishing her a little bit for forgetting about your scan? Sounds to me like you were hurt by thi (rightly so) and she felt guilty and was trying to make it up to you but did it in a way that just had the result of making you feel badgered. I don't know her though, so could be reading it wrong. If it was me I'd call her and try to clear the air. You may value her support later on. Some people are 'doers' rather than 'ponderers', which might be why she nags you to write letters asking to be seen earlier etc.

BusyMissIzzy · 01/05/2010 16:04

Tricky one... First of all, sorry to hear about your diagnosis, but it must be a relief that it's been diagnosed and you can now start doing something positive about it.

I would say that YANBU to want to avoid your Mum's drama but you could have answered the phone to tell her that you didn't feel like talking right now. It sounds like she was worried when you didn't answer. She'll get over it though (hopefully; she sounds a bit melodramatic), I wouldn't worry unduly.

FabIsGoingToGetFit · 01/05/2010 16:05

Of course she wasn't punishing her mother! She knew she wouldn't get what she needed so decided the best thing to do was have some space.

YANBU.

coveredinsnot · 01/05/2010 16:15

Thanks for your replies. I wasn't punishing her, although I can see how it might be viewed that way. She is a drama queen and I am not, and felt the need to protect myself from that side of her then. But I feel bad about it now - such is her power over me! Bah. I thought I'd grow out of caring so much as I got older, but it seems not. Anyway, thanks for your responses, it's reassuring to know you don't think I was at fault.

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diddl · 01/05/2010 16:15

I´m with Fab on this.

Also, OP had explained everything the day before.

Some people don´t like going over & over stuff.
I have had a procedure that my parents don´t know about as I just couldn´t do with how they would fuss.

OctaviaH · 01/05/2010 20:50

Her daughter's just been diagnosed as having a heart problem, obviously she's going to want to talk to her as much as poss

It seems to me like its an interpretation thing, annoying vs. caring...up to one which one you choose really. Totally understand you just wanting to be alone with that & pmt but it doesn't sound like your mum's done anything that terrible. Also it sounds like you've been going for appointments etc for three years, so also totally understandable that she doesn't have each one etched in her brain by now. Obviously, in a perfect world...

Very sorry to hear of your diagnosis and i wish you the best of luck

scoutliam · 01/05/2010 20:53

yabu, she was more than likely worried when you didn't answer her calls, not saying you aren't entitled to take some time to think, just that I can see why she was worried.

ArthurPewty · 01/05/2010 21:00

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HumphreyCobbler · 01/05/2010 21:06

You sent her a text.

I can't believe those who think you should have phoned her. She should be trying to do what makes YOU feel better rather than making you feel guilty ffs.

I feel quite angry with her on your behalf actually.

When I got some terrible news a few years ago I couldn't bear to speak to anyone in my family for a few days. It felt like their pain was too much for me to bear. DH explained that I couldn't speak, and because they put my wishes first they accepted it. Even though it was hard for them.

OP, you really shouldn't feel guilty about this

MarineIguana · 01/05/2010 21:09

Sorry about your diagnosis and I hope it all turns out well.

My mum is like this. She really wants me to tell her everything and talk to her on the phone but she's deeply tactless, negative and unhelpful, so I also "shield" myself and screen her calls especially if I'm feeling emotional. She doesn't understand, feels put out and then I get all the neurotic phone messages and usually she starts panicking that something's wrong. Urrrggh, it just adds a whole heap of stress to any already stressful situation, and it's such hard work. It's all about her needs, not what's good for me, but I've realised she genuinely can't see that.

However I stand by my right to keep her at arm's length and try not to feel guilty. I often update her by email or text so I don't have to talk to her as that makes me feel trapped - it's really hard to end a phone call with her.

When you are having a difficult time, you are right to do what makes it easiest for you.

laweaselmys · 01/05/2010 21:11

It's about YOU. If you didn't want to talk to her don't. And don't feel bad about it, I know she he is your mother and she cares about you, but why do you have to do things on her terms just because of that. Honestly think about it. That's completely ridiculous.

Just be straight with your mum. If you want space send her a message saying you're thinking things over and you'll get in touch when you want to talk.

If she complains about that it is her problem not yours.

You will also probably feel a lot more in control of your life.

withorwithoutyou · 01/05/2010 21:12

Oh that's sounds horrible, I'm sorry.

I don't think you were being unreasonable to want some space.

I sympathise with you on your mother's behaviour - my Mum is exactly the same, incapable of expressing sympathy over anyhing so just hectors and badgers and makes stressful situations unbearable.

I, too, would have ignored her calls.

MadamDeathstare · 01/05/2010 22:00

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coveredinsnot · 02/05/2010 10:31

Thanks so much for your replies everyone. I feel a lot better now. This is so typical of my relationship with her, and despite knowing that I'm right in wanting some space to myself and to protect me from her neuroticism, I still feel guilty and as though I've damaged our precarious relationship! When I spoke to her yesterday morning and she was laying on the guilt-trip, every sentence started with 'I' or 'me' which I guess says quite a lot in itself. Anyway, thanks so much for your support, it's easy to get tangled up in silly arguments with her which is really the last thing I want at a time like this!

And LeonieDelt yes it is a PFO but I'm having a lot of problems which they think might be caused by it, so unlikely they'll leave it alone. Ho hum!

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Sonilaa · 02/05/2010 10:51

yanbu - my mother is a bit like this, plus she has such power over me that I can*t just say I call you later.

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coveredinsnot · 03/05/2010 10:17

Madamdeathstare I love that analogy! I'll remember that for next time...

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