to be Polish and feel sick for being made a scapegoat in this election campaing?

[farmazon]

I made a mistake reading newspapers online today.
All spitting out anti-eastern european/Polish venom.

It doesn't matter I work, do Master's degree and bring my child in love of both British and Polish culture I'm still 'destroying this country'. I give up.

'I've noticed more stares and been called racist names more times in the last 2 weeks than in the last 2 years (I am muslim)'

How nasty. I wonder why? Election making people jittery and more likely to be aggressive?

Only five more days, thank God.

Erm, but Riven, you're white!

Thanks again for many kind words.

I usually speak Polish to my dd and have to say we are getting quite a lot of unfriendly stares when out and about at the moment. Not comments as yet luckily.

What makes me angry most is a level of brainwashing going on at the moment. People are made to believe that Polish people have invaded this country in order to get free healthcare, education etc and sponge off the state.

No one mentions that when Poland first joined EU in 2004 all big companies were sending their people to Poland to recruit workers.

EU migration is a direct result of deliberate government decision to keep minimum wage as low as possible and create cheap and ready available labour supply. All for the sake of big businesses.

But it is not just agency work that the Poles are doing - they are doing more regular jobs too!
Back when I was still a lab manager, I employed a lovely Polish lass as a lab technician, bright, industrious and very capable. And great when we had the Polish truckers coming in . Hardly any British people applied for the job, money was not that bad, about £13K bear in mind this is in Tyne & Wear, and there was always plenty of overtime & a generous bonus scheme as well.
Some of the British people had a really crap attitude as well - clearly only at the interview because it makes it look as though they were looking, a complete waste of my time .
I know there are a lot of people on the dole who are trying so hard to look for a job, but there also some that clearly cannot be bothered, and are clearly content to sit on their lazy arses.
And they're are the ones who complain about the Eastern Europeans "taking our jobs" .

Farmazon.

I have searched in vain through the Mail Online for any article this morning relating to:

"..jobs being taken by polish lads who "didn't suffer the handicap of British state education". I kid you not."

I have found Janice Turner's piece about Mrs Duffy. I am struggling to find the "anti-eastern european/Polish venom." within.

Whining about imaginary articles to get these nice ladies to feel sorry for you is attention seeking in my book.

Wanting affirmation and "lovely words" from other posters like this is pathetic.

Your OP still does not stand up to scrutiny.

I think there's at least one woman on this thread who is taking genuine racist crap IRL. It really isn't you.

Re Jan Moir's article:

She may be a formidable 'Northern Matriarch' but her 'flocks of Eastern Europeans...' comment is still odious and bigoted.

If that is how 'northern matriarchs' think of outsiders, no wonder I get those stares on the bus which are quickly averted the second I look their way.

The Conservatives, making political mileage out of her bedrock of the Labour Party community image, have therefore endorsed her bigotry and given every other bigot the license to express theirs.

Sorry. If you your mam, auntie, nan holds views like hers then yes, she is a bigot too.

Yeah, that was a very cruddy article. Not sure what her point was, and it came across quite patronizing to her 'Northern matriarch' too.

..Jan Moir..

Catinthehat2, here's the article with the line about the 'handicap of British state education':

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1270169/General-Election-2010-The-great-disconnect-Schools -hospitals-jobs-worrying-real-Britons-politicians-wont-admit-problem.html

(Hope I've done that correctly... You can always link to it through the home page).

So, it's not imaginary

To be honest, I think on many days, if you were willing to 'browse' through the Express, Mail etc you'd see plenty of similar articles. (I'd offer to post you links to them as and when I see them but think it would bring on a seizure . It was bad enough having to look for that link)

And, farmazon, please don't ever read the Mail. No good can ever some of it!

For what it's worth, I don't think farmazon is 'whining'. I'm absolutely fed up with some of the lazy, casual racism that I've heard and read recently. Not least as a couple of the Poles I know run businesses here (IT-related) and employ British people.

As for immigrants creating the 'cycle of disadvantage' - so it's got nothing to do with an economic policy that has seen the richest people in Britain getting 30% richer in the past year, then?

Bugger. I only intended to post the link and now look at me. That's my ironing time gone.

The Daily Mail. Keeping women out of the kitchen. [smile

Ahem. I did of course mean:
The Daily Mail. Keeping women out of the kitchen.

Not that that's important. I just wanted it to be right.

(Story of my life....)

Madam - good searching, wonder why OP didn't manage it .
I will check it out when vacuuming is done

OK - scanned it.

Maybe you can point me to the bit with " spitting out anti-eastern european/Polish venom"!

I can see "skilled and hard-working Poles "

I can see "The local job agencies told him he had no chance because he was English. They only took Poles on to their books."

I can see "..an unemployed Pole explained to me that he is hardly likely to return home if he finds himself out of work. Not when benefits in Poland are half what they are in Britain."

I should think the reporter can back up these words. Sounds pretty factual to me.

Still can't see the "venom".

Maybe OP has another article in mind!

"I can see "..an unemployed Pole explained to me that he is hardly likely to return home if he finds himself out of work. Not when benefits in Poland are half what they are in Britain."

Why should he? He's paid the same contributions as a Brit.

Quite.

All fact, no venom.

I've never really understood what people have against Polish people, all the ones I have met are lovely.

I'm anti-immigration (for economic and practical reasons), but not anti-polish people or anti any country/race.

I don't actually know any polish people so I can't say "my best friend is polish" but I've heard people say that the polish people they met were decent and hard working and I've no reason to doubt it.

By definition any Polish migrant worker came all this way to find work to do. That counts for something in my book.

So ignore the Daily Mail as others have said. Its method of selling papers is to stir up anger and hatred.

YANBU

There idiots in the UK same as anywhere: my Dad works with a group of polish people and he hates the way many of his colleagues treat them, though as he says although he carries a polish translation dictionary, is friends with them and does all he can, he often feels like one amongst many: and as with this column, it's only the poeple with a loud voice thatc an be heard and not the many otehrs who disagree.

Good luck with the MAsters: am doing one as well and although hard work, am loving it.