to think that it's no wonder nick griffin's popularity is on the increase when so many people seem to think it's ok to refer to other races "flockking" into the country?

[wannaBe]

Is it ok to say the same about blacks/asians/muslims/other races/cultures too?

And this is not about Gordon Brown - he has his own thread/s.

But I wonder what that woman (can't remember her name now) says in private when that's what she says in public?

Not sure what you think is unreasonable? is it the use of the term flocking? I don't think "flocking" is racist as we flock to the coast on holiday and flock to the shops at Christmas.

I think being overly sensitive to innocuous terms can be counter productive and cause a problem where there isn't one.

As for Nick Griffin- I think we all agree he is a scumbag.

flocking is a dehumanizing word though.

is it?

of corse it is. When you're talking about one group of people i.e. eastern europeans in this instance. and in fact she said "what about all these eastern europeans. Where are they flocking from?" I think that by my last estimate they were "flocking" from eastern europe?

ditto what minthumbug said

x-posts, but ditto what minthumbug said both times

I think flocking implies there's absolutely no control which isn't quite correct.

I hate flocking.

It looks naff.

I mean who wants velvet wallpaper, really?

Oh for flock's sake.

OP I agree with you, and you statements on the other threads (somehow I knew this OP would be you).

Nobody is mentioning brits 'flocking' to other parts of teh EU with impunity. Plenty of people flock to France and Spain on a permanent/semi permanent basis. My mum's friend moved with her family to just outside Alicante. Her kids are in a spanish school, half of the pupils are brits. But nobody thinks about that here do they.

Eastern europeans have as much right to flock to the Uk as we have to flock to other EU countries.

To be honest I don't care about immigration anyway. It's not as if we just let 'em all in and let ourselves be overrun with the 'them'. I personally do not care. there are larger problems to worry about.

LOL - velvet wallpaper!

Yes it is a dehumanizing word. It implies unthinking animalistic action. Implies that those doing it are not open to rational argument. Just like people who flock to the Next sale in fact.

sorry i don't think thats offensive wannabe, don't half the british population flock to spain in the summer?!
i don't see malice in the term

well then she used the wrong word, because they all know what they're doing when they come to live here don't they.
nothing unthought about it.

Lol OTT re Next.

OTTMummA - it isn't particularly offensive. It is dehumanising. On it's own, applied to not particularly controversial groups of people it is not particularly. As part of a strategy to present a particular group as less human or worthy that other groups it is. And there are people who wish to portray migrants in that way. Whether this woman is one of those or not I don't know. But she could have said coming to this country.

I don't think she was trying to portray the people she was speaking about in a less than worthy way, I think she didn't quite know the right words to use to explain her concerns about a sensative issue for many of us.
Yes she could of said coming to this country, but i feel her anger was more directed at the labour government and it came out the wrong way.

I didn't think of her attacking immigrants in any way.