to forget how lucky I am to have two lovely children sometimes?

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after 5 years and £20k of fertility treatment we are lucky enough to have twin girls. But today they are rather driving me mad with their constant shouting, fighting, crying and toddler tantrums - all in double stereo and I am finding it hard to be grateful, count my lucky stars etc I just fancy 10 mins of harmonious playing!

YANBU!!!

So you longed for children and paid a fortune to get them........that doesn't equal never being allowed to hate that you have them!!! Give yourself a break hen!

That was years ago.
This is now.

There is not one single parent on the planet who doesn't get driven mad by their children at some points in life.

Make yourself a cuppa and see if you can arrange a game for the three of you. Or a game where they have to play against you. I find this helps unite my twins sometimes.

My DTs are 5 and like chalk and cheese. Sometimes it works and they even cuddle up together, sometimes it doesn't and they nip each other. Its not you

YANBU

In a day or two they will probably be making you laugh and reminding you of how lucky you are.

I feel exactly the same, DS ivf baby and DD was natural and as much as i thank my lucky stars for two healthy beautiful (not biased at all ) children there are days i would happily stick them to the noticeboard with gags over their sweet lil mouths!!

i forget how lucky i am to have 4 not so lovely children all the time

another thought.........dig out some old photos. It will quickly remind you (a) how lovely they are and (b) how well you have done. We only ever take pictures of the good stuff and so its always therapeutic looking back.

I remember my mum telling me about a day when my twin brother was just being a horrible whingy, clingy baby. She crossly said to him 'Oh, I'll take you out and sell you for tuppence!' And my childless aunt quietly said 'I'd give you a lot more than tuppence for him.'

Mum said she'd never felt so ashamed

YANBU at all!
Have you got any film of them when they were tiny and behaving themselves? Put it on and immerse yourself in cute babyness for 5 minutes

I threaten mine that I'll take them back to the fertility clinic when they are being whiney and clingy, just cos they're desperately long awaited IVF babies doesn't mean they don't drive me up the wall sometimes!

I can beat that - I spent a similar amount for a similar time which resulted in Nothing, then spent another 3 years waiting to adopt DS. Of course I should be knitting him jumpers out of lovely daisies and polishing his hair all the time, in appreciation of his loveliness... but sometimes, just sometimes, I get a teensy bit frustrated. There I've said it!

YANBU. I too have twins after IVF but that doesn't make me a better or more patient mum.

I just see it as taking a different route to getting pregnant. Nobody is perfect, we all have tough times with our children. Don't beat yourself up about it. Have a nice cuppa

Oh kew, haven't seen you for yonks! Last time you had a different name I am sure........anyway, I have just taken a peek at the gorgeous boy and he is just gorgeous can't believe he is four, I was there the night you were singing "I'm leaving on a jet plane"

Thanks you all! My day culminated in one of them banging the other ones head against the stair gate (we had been out at park and garden centre letting off steam all afternoon but obviously one of them still had some energy left) - cutting her eye - whilst dealing with that they both weed on floor and one of them did a grand finale of a big poo on the floor. One trip to doctors, one arrival home of husband and one evening at a wine tasting event I have calmed down!

oh my Kew your DS is absolutely the most adorable boy

ah we all do it part of being a mummy! u r very lucky but allowed to get pissed off with it sometimes to!!