to think that if your small children are awake...

[emmymama]

then you should be as well?

ok, so this may be jealousy, dd (13 months) wakes me up at 5.30am and sleeps from 9pm! hopefully only waking twice

i have a friend that gets up at dinnertime, she has a 13 month old and a 2 year old..

i asked her how much they sleep and she said that 13 month old goes to sleep at 6.30pm and 2 year old at 8ish and they sleep till around 10.30am and then play for an hour or so before she gets up

my dd would have eaten her cot by then

If they're playing happily then YABU.

I would have thought they'd be ravenous by then though.

13 month old dgs sleeps 6.30 to 5.30 so you are not alone
His 3.6yr old brother goes from 7 till 7 most nights.

That does sound like an unusually long sleep for children that age. They must be starving.

I wouldn't be surprised if she thinks they wake up at 10:30 but they're really awake a lot sooner and she just doesn't hear them.

I do think your friend should get up before lunchtime, especially with such young children. I don't think it hurts to have the odd nap whilst they are awake. Ds is 5 and a half and I asked him to play in his bedroom this morning whilst I went to sleep for half an hour, I didn't sleep a wink last night and am absolutely shattered.

To each their own...as long as kids are okay and happy, then what's the problem?? I wish mine were happy to play on their own in the mornings...then we wouldn' have to be up at 6:30 every morning!

The 13mth old goes without food between 6.30pm and 11.30am?

Does she leave a bottle in her bed?

I cannot imagine that a child of that age would go so long without food, never mind the 2yo.

Hmm. I would have thought a 13 month old would be hungry and making it known in no uncertain terms, but maybe this one eats well in the evening and therefore isn;t hungry till later. Do her DC seem well fed and happy otherwise? If so, keep your beak out, there is no moral superiority involved in getting up early in the morning when you don't have to.
If, however, you think that the mother is depressed and not coping and the DC suffering mild neglect then maybe you do need to have a talk with her and try to help.

Is she depressed? Or exaggerating?!

it was the food that bothered me, dd is the same age as her youngest and she has supper at 8pm then breast after her bath and usually another feed during the night, she has breast again at 5.30 then breakfast, snack at 9.30 (after school run) and dinner, all before these kids are out of bed

slight voice of dissent - my DD (granted, she is 3.5 so a good bit older) will sometimes go to sleep at about 8 and sleep through to 10:30am and is not particularly hungry when she wakes up - in fact, whatever time my DC wake up it is a good hour before they are really hungry - which is a PITA when I am trying to get them up, fed and out of the house by 8am.

I think it is ok to doze in the same room while they were playing but I wouldn't let children that young have the run of the house while I stayed in bed.

I actually think that it's quite sad that they are all missing out on a morning.

Aside from the food thing I don't think it's particularly nice for them not to have their nappies changed pretty soon after they get up, what if they poo? Just thinking that my 21month old likes a morning poo about half an hour after she is up.

Maybe they are very content to lie or sit in their cots until your friend gets up but IMVHO it just feels a bit wrong to be sleeping when your LOs are up and awake.

i also thought are they happy and playing or do they just know she isnt coming?

My eldest two 9 & 7 have started going into DD3 2.10 yrs in the morning (about 8:30am). They all play together for an hour. I am not really asleep during this time though, as they play music, sing and bang around, but it's nice for the first time in years to have a wee lay in.

'i also thought are they happy and playing or do they just know she isnt coming? '

Maybe you should report her to SS then, what with her poor children being so neglected.

Sleeping for 16 hours seems excessive to me. She surely must be exaggerating. But then I'd not let a child wake me up at 5.30 am either, so people just have different ideas about things.

she isnt exaggerating about what time she gets out of bed

and how do i stop my 13 month old getting me up at 5,30?

I think she should be up by then, seeing as they get up so late. It sounds rather lazy to me.

Am intrigued by MillyR, how would you 'not let' a child wake you at 5.30?!

Yanbu it doesnt seem right

Goodness, surely there are books about how to get children to sleep through the night? There were when my children were little. I can't believe it is a revelation that children get taught to sleep at night and not get up until a reasonable time.

I can't remember events that clearly - DD coslept with us until she was 3 - and she just understood that you all get up at the same time. When she was about 13 months if she wanted to breastfeed in the night she would do it without waking me up.

if you find this magic book could you please let me know, unfortunately my baby didnt come with the manual

Lucky you Milly. Not all children are the same, you know. DS is a little more strong-willed than yours, from the sound of it.

I have just seen that there is in fact a whole section on MN called sleep!

I wouldnt stay in bed until lunchtime just because my one year old would need a nappy change before then and they would all be hungry. BUT they will play as happily as anything in their rooms until i call them down today that was at 9:30, I am normally awake but relaxing sometimes they come in for a hug but most of the time they just play together in their rooms.School days we are up at 6:00 so I feel I deserve a lie in in the holidays. If they wake up earlier than 6 - then they know not to bother me lol its tough unless they are ill or the baby needs a nappy!.