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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

or are these workmen rude chancers?

36 replies

Lovecat · 12/04/2010 12:17

Backstory - five to nine this morning, barely out of bed with DD, just heading for the shower, the doorbell goes.

I'm expecting a parcel so I drop everything except my towel and open the door.

Burly Irish guy stands there surrounded by other workmen, says 'we're ready to begin work, love'

I go ??

'Oh, your husband agreed it all, we're here to re-lay your drive, you'll need to be moving that car'

I tell them not to do a thing until I've spoken to DH, call him and, yes, while I was working late last week he agreed to these guys re-laying and sealing our block paving - which, to be fair, needs doing - but 'oh, they weren't supposed to start til Wednesday, I meant to tell you...'

I go put some clothes on, open the door again, say re. Wednesday, they say, well, we had a job cancel on us, we can do it today - I confer with DH, we say fine. I tell them I'll be going out to Morrison's once DD and I are sorted, give me half an hour. He says fine, I shut the door.

En route to the shower, doorbell goes again.

Irish bloke and other English-speakers have disappeared. I have what appear to be 2 Eastern European pensioners in my front garden with shovels.

'Lady, you move this car'

"No, I told your boss, I will move it in half an hour."

(speaking to me like I'm a bit simple) 'Lady, you. move. this. car. we. work.'

Am fed up of standing in towel on doorstep so say 'No. Later.' and shut the door.

20 mins later we are sorted and out we go to the shops. Having calmed down (soporific effect of Morrisons), I decide to offer them a cup of tea when I return.

Nowhere to park on return, end up down the road, have 4 big bags of shopping and DD to manage, stagger up the road and onto the half-demolished drive.

'Lady, you make coffee'

Seriously, I haven't even got to the doorstep, I'm laden down, wtf???

'Fine, once I'm inside.' I growl.

'two sugars in both'

Fulminating darkly about manners but giving them benefit of doubt for lack of spoken English skills, I get in and unpack, make them their coffee (resisting temptation to add rat poison) and take it outside. DD follows me as she's nosy like that.

They are sitting in the sandy bit beneath the paving bricks, sticking shovels in it.

'Lady, you here when this done?'

Me: ??

Him (with air of longsufferingness): When this drive done before, you here?

Me: No, it was here when we moved in.

He shakes his head and sucks his teeth. Bearing in mind DD is dancing around me, he goes 'This shit work. Shit. No hardcore.'

I ask him to mind his language, he looks at me like I'm insane, I go to go back inside, he calls me back.

'Lady, you got charger?' and shoves his bloody phone under my nose.

As a matter of fact I do, but I just say 'no' and go back inside.

Now is it me, or are they fecking cheeky bastards??

OP posts:
louisnearlythere · 12/04/2010 12:24

They are being very cheeky, and I would be having STRONG words with DH for
a) employing someone to do that without any discussion, and 'forgetting to mention it'
and
b) employing someone I assume that knocked on the door with no idea if they were any bloody good!
on your behalf!

ChippingIn · 12/04/2010 12:24

Where the hell did your DH get that lot from?

Lady you make coffee! FFS - there's not a hope in hell he'd of got one if it was me!!

Cheeky doesn't even cover it.

Unprofessional, rude....

Tell DH he needs to get it sorted!

ChickensHaveSinisterMotives · 12/04/2010 12:24

Yeah, I wouldn't be letting them do any work on my house. The word 'cowboy' comes to mind....

stripeyknickersspottysocks · 12/04/2010 12:25

Oh dear, are they from a reputable company?

I think asking you to move the car was OK but asking for coffee before you'd even got through the door and asking to charge phone was a bit cheeky. I'd have charged the phone though, wouldn't hurt but I would be thinking cheeky fecker.

louisnearlythere · 12/04/2010 12:27

And don't make them any coffee!
Stand at the window drinking one yourself and watch them work!

posieparker · 12/04/2010 12:28

I hope you've paid nothing and keep taking photos of the work thourghout.....sounds like they may cut some major corners.

FiveGoMadInDorset · 12/04/2010 12:29

I would be very concerned that you are being shafted, just ringing alarm bells for some reason. Has your DH agreed a price, in writing? And don't pay anything until you are staisfied with the job.

Nancy66 · 12/04/2010 12:31

at the risk of offending the more sensitive types on MN - sounds like gypsies have just knocked on your door and your DH has agreed to the job.

The fool.

Fliight · 12/04/2010 12:33

Oh my good lord, why on earth did you let them start work!

Sorry but I really think you should try and stop them doing any more, give them fifty quid and tell them to go...then get someone YOU chose round to sort it out. You will otherwise be facing a terrible, terrible job, for extortionate prices, and have to have it all done again anyway in a week.

Aussieng · 12/04/2010 12:35

Oh god YANBU but whatever possssed your DH to accept a bunch of "pave your drive Misters?" to do work on your house

I hope it all works out but the "shit no hardcore routine" sounds like a precursor to asking for more money than had been agreed....either that or them having an excuse ready for your dravieway having an unexpected slope in 3 months time!

EricNorthmansmistress · 12/04/2010 12:35

Nancy66
I am the most PC of all but my mind leapt to the same conclusion. OP it is a fact that there are certain of the traveller population who do this - offer building work on the doorstep (especially driveways) then often do cowboy work. Somwehat different to the scam of doing the work without permission then demanding payment with menaces but still, who are these builders, and is your DH stupid?

I think you need to stop them from touching your drive, send them on their way and cross fingers that you don't get any fallout.

EricNorthmansmistress · 12/04/2010 12:37

Oh yes the whole 'shit work, no hardcore' sounds like a rehearsed line, especially if they didn't understand what you meant about bad language - maybe they didn't even know what the word meant.

Iklboo · 12/04/2010 12:39

One of DH's pupils had a guy knock on their door and ask if he could take photos of their drive 'so I can pretend me and the lads did it'

Fliight · 12/04/2010 12:40

The only English our Polish builders had was 'fucking shit'

You would get a whole paragraph of Polish interspersed with 'fucking shit' every few words.

I learnt how to say ;you're welcome' which is 'Prosze'

can't remember anything else

and they were chancers, too. (fond memories of having to take up slate floor in order to scrape off wrong adhesive that wouldn't dry, and replace with actual cement...Oh the joy)

5Foot5 · 12/04/2010 12:40

"Has your DH agreed a price, in writing?"

This is very important. We once naively made a verbal contract to have a patio laid and drainage put in. There was no fixed price, the deal was that we would settle the bill for the materials and pay the workman by the day. We got a fairly poor job and the guy was a bone idle chancer who span it out as longs as he could

Fliight · 12/04/2010 12:41

LOL at Iklboo

posieparker · 12/04/2010 12:44

Yes, stop work and ask for a quote in writing. Take photos of the workers.

lucky1979 · 12/04/2010 12:44

Yep, another vote for scammers. They're quite common where my mum lives, her gardener does drives and paving and says half his work comes from repairing "work" done by travellers.

Good luck!

Iklboo · 12/04/2010 12:45

And find the email address/phone number for Nick Knowles & that baldy Dominic guy off of the telly!

sparkle12mar08 · 12/04/2010 12:47

This has got to be a wind up. No one is stupid enough to employ people at the door anymore, without a contract in writing. Don't believe you

And how much spurious detail in the op?

PrivetDancer · 12/04/2010 12:47

Yes I would tell them to stop work immediately, before they do too much damage! Sounds like the sort of thing you see on watchdog type programmes with hidden cameras showing them doing foundations with polystyrene or some such.

Do you have a camcorder? Make a big deal of setting it up in the window and see if they start working a bit harder!

BloomingFlowers · 12/04/2010 12:49

You won't get a satisfactory job out of this.

Go outside, ask them for the cost of the day labour and then agree to pay them off.

Demand that they down tools immediately and leave the site.

Agree that you'll pay them cash this evening (agree the amount)when you're Dh is home.

Insist that they leave your premises immediately; otherwise you will call the police.

Kick your DH from here to next week on the basis that he's stupid.

ASecretLemonadeDrinker · 12/04/2010 12:49

Irish bloke came to do mums garage roof (I'm Irish , just stating he was too). He then brought along two foreign workers (no idea where from, no english) and a week later the roof was worse than ever and leaking like mad - all over my mums PHD work. Not worth the 'saving' over getting someone proper to do it. Also they will probably be uninsured etc.

Fliight · 12/04/2010 12:55

Weird to suspect the OP is made up, I think

Lovecat has been here ages and is fine.

differentnameforthis · 12/04/2010 12:57

There was a programme some time ago about 'workmen' who knocked on doors asking for work recommending that driveways need to be redone.

They were at best, lousy workers...at worse they left after being paid, leaving holes in the driveways & said driveway being unusable!

I would crucify my dh if he 'hired' people to do this just because they knocked on the door!