to think people don't understand what discrimination is?

[StealthPolarBear]

in this country you can't discriminate against ginger people, football fans, b&b owners, pets, pandas or Daily Mail readers!

is this a challenge?

School holidays innit

You can if you try.

no not a challenge!
on any thread about discrimination people talk about how it's ok to discriminate against pet owners, drunks & nick griffin.

you can be nasty. bully. refuse services. but you cant discriminate. it isn't discrimination

depends on whether you are just using a particular (narrow) legal definition of 'discrimination' or using it in the everyday sense of "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit"

I do see your point, but it is ridiculous to talk about discriminating against pets, or individuals (which is what drunks are in the context of a B&B)

Can you state clearly what this thread is about?

and in theory, if it's not 'discrimination' then it's OK to not allow service - e.g. as a B&B owner I could refuse to allow access to all 'drunks'. It isn't OK when that group is 'homosexuals', 'Christians' or even 'BNP members'

I think I agree with you - except for the bit about 'gingers'

x-posts ... now I'm confused.

sorry MZ
It#'s a thread about a lot of threads, usually relating to discrimination where it's clear that people don't understand what discrimination is and isn't.
Obviously what brought it to mind is the B&B one where people are saying they are discriminated against because they have pets, or should B&B owners have to admit anyone - does that include violent drunks etc etc.
Might not be clear but I am tired. Hopefully it is at least there

muddleduck would it help or confuse you more if I confess to being a little bit ginger??

what confused you? My general drunken ramblings (I'll be OK to slip into a B&B as long as I'm behind a group of lesbians) or the eloquence and highbrowness of my argument?

That depends on whether you feel it is possible for you to be discriminated against on the grounds of gingerness?

no
cos gingerness isn't grounds for discrimination in the same way as being disabled, a lesbian, a Christian, or, much as it pains me, a member of the BNP.

well plainly you can and plainly you aren't quite sure what discrimination is yourself

are you really drunk on a Tuesday lunchtime?

heavens above

no, not unless you count decaff coffee?
Not sure what you mean about 'plainly you can'?

why not?

if I go to a B&B and am refused entry because I am a ginger, I can argue. I can be angry. I can take my custom loudly elsewhere. I can give them poor reviews. I can write them a strongly worded letter. They have behaved very very badly. But they haven;t discriminated, until they find out I'm a black, Christian lesbian guinea pig with one leg and refuse me a room for that reason.

If I didn't get a job because I am ginger, that would be discrimination.

If someone said they didn't like my hair, that would not be discrimination.

ho just trying to impress us i see how it is

well you can though

treating one person differently because they belong to a certain group is discrimination

it is one of those things that kinda works both ways

if you go to a B&B and are refused entry because you are ginger then THAT IS DISCRIMINATION

ooh look what I did

if you're being post ironic then I've failed your test completely

but you mean in the general view of the world it doesn't count, but the general view of the world is wrong?

your decaff has gone to my head now