to think my 4yo ds should not be punched, kicked and taunted at school

[LargeLatte]

Nearly every day......!!!!!!

This has been going on ever since school started in Sept when school ridiculously took on 28 summer born 4 year old full time, with just 1 teacher and 1 TA. As I predicted a couple of kids handy with their fists are being joined by a few others so now we have at least half a dozen 4/5 yo running around punching, kickingm pushing, spitting, getting their willies out, kicking staff etc etc every day. ds1 was punched twice today, and kicked. One day last week he was punched twice and someone cut his sweatshirt while he was wearing it. After failed meetings with head I am taking it to school governors but am finding it hard hearing other mums say it happends to their kid but that they are tougher, or do things to deserve it.

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Thanks piglet - you could offer your opinion too. Is this just normal reception class behaviour or has it got out of hand. This is my first experience of school so I am pretty clueless (well obviously I went to school, but not had a child in school before).

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Erm any other local schools with vacancies?

What is the ratio of boys to girls?

A good teacher would cope though, have witnessed difficult classes in terms of mix tamed quickly.

Well it's not unusual to have aclassful of summer borns

but the teacher and ta must be completely ineffectual

I'd go to the head, then the lea

No, you are perfectly reasonable.

I wish I had some helpful advice but all I can offer is sympathy. I think speaking to the governors is the right thing to do, I hope they can do something about it.

It does SoUnd like it's got out of hand

I wouldn't leave my child there at all. It sounds like a free for all, there's clearly no discipline.

Your poor child

you said the meetings with the head failed?

Sorry Largelatte I was eating an Ice lollie and could not type a long post without it melting. Feel really for your poor ds that is not acceptable, have you spoken to his class teacher or the head about it. Elmo on here had a similar experience with her ds. If you feel nothing is being done go to the poice as Elmo did with her ds, that would not be acceptable for adults and should not for children. Sorry i cant be of any help, I am sure that there are some mums/dads on here that can give you better advice. I was bullied at school for my bad Eczema and dyslexia and used to be called names and teased a lot

If it continues move schools, that is not acceptable at all, your poor ds.

Is it jsut coincidence that there are 28 summer borns in one class? Is there only one class per year, or is there another class with older children in?

What you have described is not normal behaviour....1 teacher and 1 TA should be more than able to cope with such a class....

DS2 was in a very, um, energetic class, with a couple of boys with behaviour problems, and the rest were just unruly (I put it down to they nursery they had attended, and a lot of PFB/only their mothers treating them like they were angels when they (IMO) were certainly not.

By Christmas, the teacher had managed to sort their behaviour out (toughing part from shaking hands) had been banned for instance, and there were a lot of red cards given out)

It sounds like the teacher isn't coping to me.

Even if they were all still at nursery, this shouldnt' be happening. (Yes, I understand there would be more staff at nursery)

My youngest can be rough but I hate hearing that gentler boys get roughed up. My son is always told no playing Ben 10 or whatever unless the other child wants to and is able to. He comes home bruised but I know he wants to.
The school need to pull their fingers out, they'd be the first ones to whine if you approached the other parents

Sounds total chaos to me, if you are not happy with the situation and cannot see it getting better in the future i would move ds if possible.

I've seen very clearly the difference between a brilliant teacher and a struggling one with a reception class, the outcome was quite scary.

sorry wanted to bump your thread up to the top for people to see, while i finished my lollie I am usually quite vocal on here

No, reception classes can be (ahem!) rowdy until they settle down a little and learn how to sit on the carpet! What you are describing is way beyond the pale.

My goodness in the nursery where my dd goes which is attatched to the local primary, they are excellent, learn sharing, social skills and listening skills there. My dd just tured 3 would not sit on the carpet or still in her old pre school but within a few days at this nursery was sitting still listening to the teacher which was so good.

I know exactly what you are going through. My DD was nearly 4 when the same thing happened to her. One particular child every time. In writing, I requested a meeting with her teacher. Wrote down my points and read them out (in case I forgot). Asked that the child who was doing this be supervised properly. Got a positive response. Next day at pick up, DD was covered in scratches to her face, near her eyes. Teacher said that DD had had a "bump". DD said that she scratched herself. DD has short nails. Went straight to head teacher and took a photograph of DD in her office. Told headteacher if this wasn't sorted then I would take DD out of school and file a complaint that her health and safety was being endangered due to lack of supervision. No problems since. Good Luck!

I think it probably depends on the school and the class mix, but there have been numerous problems at ds1 school since he started. hes had clothing ripped, stuff broken, kicked and punched on the ground and other children in his class have sustained injuries serious enough for school to ring parents and get them to take to a+e.He himself is a vv difficult child and in some circs is not blameless but I know of other children that are entirely innocent and are also getting lots of hassle from particular children.

I have no idea how they'll manage next sept when the classes merge again, theyve got 4/5 children(mainly boys) in each class that have challenging behaviour and clash with each other.

Thanks all for your comments. Thanks for bumping Piglet - hope you didn't think my stony silence last night was me being grumpy at you. Actuallt spent hours and hours online with some of the other mum's forming a plan of action.

After I saw the Head in Jan things did improve and one child who was quite disruptive was taken into care and he is now being an angel. Another child is well on the road of form filling and meetings too (SN and Social Services I think). I saw the teacher again today and it seems ds1 has also been instigating which he has now admitted to me. Did get some postives out of meeting so going to have a think about it over the Easter break. I am quite shocked at how little the other parents care and I know their dcs are getting hit too including some very dinky girls.
Need more thinking time, but all your experiences are very much helping me- at least I don't feel like I am over reacting. And I do love the teacher but she is far too soft.

Aww thats ok Large, shouldve eaten that lollie first . Glad that you have a plan of action as it really cant go on. Glad that things are looking up as well.