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to pull DD (13) out of school and home educate?

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BigMomma3 · 18/03/2010 12:17

Just got another email from one of her teachers this AM saying that her behaviour in class has still not improved and she is now to be put on 'report'. Which I presume means that her subject teachers will report back to the head of year about her. I have no problem with this but she has been warned that this could happen for a few weeks and has no attempt to change her behaviour - WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER!! I could shake her .

Bit of background - her behaviour has changed out of all recognition since she started secondary school two years ago (now in Yr8) although there was a bit of silliness where she was dared to do something and did it in Yr6, nothing serious though. We actually moved her to her current school at the start of Yr8 as in the first school, she got involved with a group of 'challenging' kids and started playing up and getting dententions so we thought moving her would be a good idea to prevent the downward spiral that she is now on anyway!! She agreed with the move and made new friends very quickly but kept falling out with them and moving on to other kids cos people keep 'annoying' her. She is now disruptive in lessons, refusing to do her work and talking back and arguing with the teachers . She says it's other kids as well but I have made it clear I don't care what the other kids do!! We have discussed it with her until we are blue in the face, trying to figure out why she is so irritable and angry all the time at home as well. She is plain nasty to her brothers and refuses to do any activities out of school apart from a performing arts academy that costs me an arm and a leg but which I thought would be good for her confidence but I have to literally force her to go!! She says that she can't control herself but she does'nt seem to care that she is letting herself down badly . I certainly do not blame the school as they are communicating with me and doing all they can.

I have been looking for excuses about why she has gone off the rails but we are a 'normal' family, there is nothing in her life to make her behave badly. I am pregnant but she was like this before that! We talk a lot and still have lots of cuddles. Her father dotes on her and she gets plenty of attention so I am coming to the conclusion that she is just a spoilt brat and am seriously thinking about home educating her for a few years (as I will not be able to go back to work because of the baby anyway) to get her away from 'outside influences' until she matures a bit more but obviously that will mean she will have less contact with the outside world and will probably lose contact with friends etc, so am I being too harsh??

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anastaisia · 18/03/2010 13:46

lol at the idea home ed children/teens would be chewing the walls never seeing any friends.

It really doesn't work like that. We have a back up list of 15 on top of the 20 invited to DD's birthday party next month - and that was limiting her to choosing who she thinks of as her 'very good friends'. (some are in school and some home ed)

She has a better social life than I do

SE13Mummy · 18/03/2010 13:57

It all sounds like a lot of hard work at the moment! Maybe your daughter does need some time out of school - schooling doesn't work for everyone all the time and it might help her to have some space and time to learn in a way that suits her. HomeEd doesn't have to be permanent either so if she had some time out at this point there's nothing to say she couldn't return to school in the future.

Does she have any contact with friends/teachers from her primary school? As a Y6 teacher myself I'm often in touch with ex-pupils during their first 2-3 years of secondary school; they come back and moan about maths being too easy/getting detention for not bringing in homework/to share gossip about other ex-members of the class. On occasions they'll also talk about things they're having trouble with/getting into trouble for and, sometimes, it's possible for the primary school to help. Primary is so different from secondary school and I often wish that there was more flexibility with when children moved on. Some are ready but others need the pastoral support that a limited number of teachers and a fixed base offer.

The secondary school should be able to arrange some kind of behaviour support for her e.g. 1:1 sessions with an outreach team or similar which may help with her feeling she cannot control her behaviour. Another thing to consider might be flexi-schooling whereby she attends school for part of a day/week but is home educated for the rest of the time.

I hope you find a way forward soon!

AMumInScotland · 18/03/2010 13:58

I think you need to think about whether you are considering home education because you think it would be a good thing for her, or as a kind of punishment. If you want to punish her, and limit her contact with friends, then I don't think you should do it. You will just end up hating each other and she won't get any education anyway.

If you seriously want to consider whether home education would suit her, prepare her well for her future life, give her a new and interesting set of possibilities etc, then that's a different thing altogether.

As Rhinestone said earlier, it would be good if you could just sit down and get her to tell you what the problem is. Not with you judging her or telling her what to do about it, but just giving her an opportunity to let you know what is wrong. And where she sees herself going in her life after school.

pranma · 18/03/2010 14:03

i would have thought that yr8 wasnt the best time to begin home ed with exams etc coming up.With a new baby how much time will you have?What subjects can you teach to an appropriate level?How co-operative will she be?
Good Luck whatever you decide

anastaisia · 18/03/2010 14:18

pranma - home education often doesn't look anything like school education. You don't usually teach in the same way, although some people do find that teaching works for their family.

GCSEs aren't the only way to go forward, particuarly not the number that are taken in schools - and it could very well be worth looking at the other options available rather than keeping a child in school to take exams if they are likely to do badly or end up with an awful school record.

But the OP should definitely talk to home ed families with older children about what they do and how it works, as well as with her DD, to decide what wouldn work for them.

BigMomma3 · 18/03/2010 15:08

No don't want to punish her. In fact my biggest worry about home ed is it affecting her social life because she will be out of the loop in respect to her friends.

My biggest worry is that she will end up like me! I never bothered with my school work and scraped by with 5 GCSE's (1988 when they were first brought in) which was pretty crap as my teachers and many other people have said that I am reasonably intelligent. I never bothered with the coursework or homework and by the time I wised up on how important qualifications are and started a degree course in the evenings while also working in a crap day job at the age of 24, I feel pregnant with DD and chucked it in again! Since then I never managed to get further in my career than working as a PA to such utter twats that I used to wonder why as I could surely do a better job than them .

I keep trying to stress how important it is but she is not interested. Will definitely be getting advice about the home ed - will be a challenge but I might actually enjoy it, you never know!

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BigMomma3 · 18/03/2010 15:10

fell pregnant obviously not feel (am feeling it this time though).

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cory · 19/03/2010 16:03

Sit down and think through the practicalities of Home Ed. How would it work for you? Would she be able to make new friends and/or see her old ones? All very well saying that many home educated children have a better social life than school educated ones, but we are not looking at statistics here, we are looking at your family, your situation, your logistics. What is available in your neighbourhood, how easy would it be for your dd to go to Home Ed meet-ups etc?

shockers · 19/03/2010 16:14

Does she have any interests outside school, sport for instance? I hated high school and think I would have really gone astray as the friends I hooked up with there weren't interested in anything other than how much they could get away with.
Swimming club gave me a more diverse group of friends but with a common interest. It was also a very social thing amongst the parents.
Both mine go to swimming clubs now. DD's is a multi disability one with a great social side. DS also goes to a football club. They have both made some fab friends.

ChippingIn · 23/03/2010 22:46

BigMomma3 - how is it going this week?

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