To think that the teacher who left the child to die

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I have pondered over this story since it broke and my heart goes out to the parents over the loss of their son, his death being so avoidable.

Am I being unreasonable in thinking that the teacher who neglected to help this young lad dying from an asthma attack should be charged with manslaughter in one form or another?

It is not a case of asking a stranger for help but more the issue that the school had a duty of care towards the lad and by refusing to assist him in an emergency after being asked by pupils, she directly contributed towards his death.

Is that unreasonable or am I getting too emotive about this?

This is awful.

I agree that the lack of policy or otherwise is a red herring. A child struggling to breath should be supervised whilst they take their inhaler and if no improvement call an ambulance. It just takes a bit of common sense not sepcialist knowledge. I don't expect there's a policy for a member of staff having chest pain but you'd still expect someone to call an ambulance.

If you are worried about your child in school, ask to see the asthma policy, speak to the school nurse about a care plan and asthma attack protocol and ask that the nurse gives the staff the relevant training. And that should be all staff not just first aiders. We have annual asthma training and epipen training delivered by school health.

it's pretty shocking I think

I watched a teacher tell an obviously injuredf child (limping and crying) she was too busy to help go find someone else recently, and my own little dfs3 (who has asd) has facial scarring because he fell and nobody thought to clean the cut or call us for an hour, even though he needed a dozen stitches (they said he didnt cry much, well no- he doesn't, its part of the asd)

Am amazed at all the posters who seem to be able to access a school nurse when there is a problem. Our school nurse only comes in about once a month, does all the schools in the district, and I have never yet managed to catch her. Medical room is supervised by one of the secretaries, who has very basic first aid training.

We don't have a school nurse on site, either.

There's one for a very large geographical area who circulates around.

Sounds like ours Riv, poor ds3 who has speech disoreders anyway has also acquired significant pronunciation issues as a result of that scar

And tehn there was the gym floor that melted in the herat, ds2's foot stuck to it and the skin remained behind as he moved (dance class) so he needed hospital treat,ment, then not only shrugged it off as 'well we told him to keep moving (he was in process of dx for dyspraxia) but took away his attenfance award that term for the time off he ahd to have

We don't ahve a sachool nurse either, tehre were mumblings of one when ds3 was in nappies but she never appeared

Horribly sad, but I can't see anything criminal. The school policies should be tightened as should training and awareness to prevent this happening again.

PS, we don't have a school nurse at our secondary.

Not criminal.

Negligent.

i agree OP

i don't buy any of the "oh she's just a teacher, not a doctor"

two other PUPILS could clearly ssee that the boy was struggling to breathe and needed an ambulance.
the teacher was told this, she said he had to wait

i am sorry, but it is neglect, plain and simple and directly contributed to his death

i don't give a shit if she is a teacher, janitor, brain surgeon, unempyed layabout.... she should have cared for hima nd called an ambulance

MrsC2010. All English state schools should have a school nurse attached to them - not one who is there all the time but someone who visits. Ask at school or call your PCT/School Health Service. The (fab) school nurse at our secondary visits weekly and the one at primary does a drop-in every couple of weeks.

As in a death was caused by negligence.

That is not something to be shrugged off as "oh whoops maybe we'd better do some training then".

Is it really just fine that an adult who was aware that a child was ill, and had different people come to tell her that he was very ill, including one who said he needed an amnbuance, and she just sat and did nothing?

Whoops that was a bit of a bungle better have a think eh, wouldn't really want it happening again. No need for any disciplinary action or anything, just one of those things.

No. if this happened in a workplace heads would roll.

A child died because this woman ignored procudure, dismissed the attempts of multiple people to tell her that something was wrong, she refused to call an ambulance when asked, she didn't even go and have a look at him, he was blue FFS. Procedure? Any normal person would have taken one look and known that something was seriously wrong.

I cannot believe anyone would say "shucks well it happens doesn't it"

Hmmm, interesting! I'm sure there is one then, I've just never met/seen/heard of her.

I work in primary and have called an ambulance 4x in 3 years. I wouldn't hesitate and would prefer that they came unnessarily than have something like this on my conscience.

So 5 teachers have been supspened now awaiting an investigation as they think that the neglet assist the death that these adults didn't help this child with commeon sense and the procedure the school had laid down

The teacher was totally in the wrong but what I am curious about is how he still didn't get to hospital until 5.20 as per the DM report?

"Mrs Linton took Sam to Stepping Hill Hospital, Stockport, at 5.20pm but he died two hours later in the presence of his parents."

Cornoners Inquest?