To find this unhygienic?

[TeenyTinyToria]

Recently, I've seen a number of mothers go into public toilets, fill up a baby's bottle with hot water from the sink, add milk powder, and feed the baby. AIB totally U to find this disgusting and unhygienic, and think there must surely be a better alternative?

Kitkat - why on earth would I make this up?

Unfortunately, it is entirely true. You only have to listen to the junkies talking in my local town centre to know that there is a lot of dodgy parenting going on.

bump I don't know if this is "allowed" but what I did was put one oz of boiling water in the bottle (used a flask when out and about). Then add how many scoops of powder that you need (DS had 8). Mix it all up and then add 7 oz of cold water. In my head the logic was that the powder is hitting water above 70 degrees so is being sterilised but you also don't have to wait for it to cool down because adding the cold water afterwards means it is the perfect drinking temperature.

TTT, Its simple,. 9 times out of 10 I read an op that makes be go I avidly read a page of shock horror and then someone pops up and says "boxroom" I'm at the point now where on some of the scarier threads I'm mentally begging for "boxroom" to be shouted by the TH'ers.

The fact that no-one has shouted troll has actually made me feel very sad for those babies.

I think i'd be tempted to report what you ad seen to the managment but quite frankly theres not much you can do to stop complete idiots.

Shame its affecting their babies and not just removing them (the adults) from the gene pool.

you should never boil a kettle and add the powder straight away, as it reduces the nutrition due to the boiling.

on ds prescribed formula, you have to wait 30 mins to cool in the kettle and then add formula, and then cool under cold water tap.

The advice just says the water should be 70 degrees or hotter and can be left to cool for up to 30 mins. If you couldn't use boiling water it would say the water should be 70 degrees C and boiling water should be left to cool for 30 minutes to reach this temperature. I actually prefer to use boiling because the MAP bacteria is not even killed at 90-95 degrees.

littlemrshappy - i agree you shouldnt put boiling water in as soon as the kettle has boiled - yes it does destroy nutrients but it also (if your bottles arent BPA free - which some arent still) lets the chemicals escape from the bottle. The guidlines say to wait up until 30 minutes for it to cool slightly, and never over 30 minutes. When I did always make dd's bottles, I just left the kettle for 10 minutes.

j0807bump

IMO the most important thing is that you made up the formula with boiled water (which had been colled for less than 30 mins - so should have been > 70 deg C).

You have then rapidly colled and stored.

That is one of the methods given in the leaflet for HCPs for when making a feed from fresh is not possible.

Also as your DS is 2+ his immune system will be far more developed than a new baby.

See the leaflet here.

nappyaddict I would like for the FSA to do some research/discuss the method you are talking about. I would be a bit worried that there was not enough volume of hot water for the powder would need to be totally dissolved to have killed the bacteria?
I think that this method would not be advocated as how do you ensure you have exactly say 7oz powder and 7oz of water - do you measure the 6oz water separately or do it "by eye" (7oz powder and 7oz water = a bottle of slightly more than 7oz formula).

I measured the cold water out separately and then added it.

My friend does the same but she does half and half so 4oz of boiling and 4 oz of cooled. 4 oz looks plenty to me to dissolve it. When I did 1 oz it dissolved fine as well - there were no lumpy bits, but I did have to shake it more than if I did half and half.

On the point about older children having formula (my DS has it due to allergy) is there an age when this problem stops being a problem.
I only ask because my DM uses powdered milk in cooking and occasionally as milk when she runs out (bluerg) so it sits in the cuoboard for ages but she just mixes it up in cold water.

Just to clarify, there seems to be a lot of confusion about making up formula safely, but I am disgusted by the thought of anyone drinking water from the hot tap. The fact it's a baby makes it 10x worse.