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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think that Mister Maker should hold his pen properly?

23 replies

meandmybub · 10/03/2010 09:54

This is my first AIBU and, to be honest, I am expecting to be shot down in flames as deep down I know it doesn't really matter, but when I was learning to write I had it drummed into me and I just can't help but feel that it sets a bad example. Thoughts?

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FioFio · 10/03/2010 09:54

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GibbonInARibbon · 10/03/2010 10:06

You need to get out more love.

ShowOfHands · 10/03/2010 10:12

I can't hold my pen 'properly'. I can't write if I hold it how you are supposed to. I had a particularly nasty teacher who used to rap my knuckles with a ruler and humiliate me in front of the class for it, trying to force me to do it the 'right' way. Are you her?

Leave the grown man alone.

ShowOfHands · 10/03/2010 10:13

And tbh, with regards to Mr G. Maker (the G stands for Gurning btw), the way he holds his pen is the least of his problems.

Buddleja · 10/03/2010 10:24

How does he hold it? - I've never noticed

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meandmybub · 10/03/2010 20:09

well that's me told.

takes gibboninaribbon's kind and thoughtful advice and goes for a walk

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thisisjuststupid · 10/03/2010 20:52

he does look like a bit of a div

mintyfresh · 10/03/2010 20:59

Well I think it obviously holds him back

GoldenSnitch · 10/03/2010 21:03

I was thinking something similar just this afternoon when DS had it on.

I figured it was some sort of "make it easy for the camera to see what I'm doing" sort of hold...

pippylongstockings · 10/03/2010 21:11

I dont hold my pen properly!

I am a bank manager and it hasn't held me back.....however I am amazed at how many people fel that they can judge/make comments about how I hold my pen on a daily basis - Oh your left handed! Wow shock ....

I have even had a lady say "Aren't you coping well!!!"

meandmybub · 10/03/2010 21:43

Hooray for GoldenSnitch, I knew there must be someone else out there who agrees with me.

pippylongstockings - Mister Maker isn't left handed.

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DoNotFeedMeBiscuits · 10/03/2010 21:53

I don't hold my pen properly. It's not caused me much harm - I'm a doctor, I am rubbish at drawing though. I am left handed - does that let me off with it?

YABU, but it doesn't matter

scrappydappydoo · 10/03/2010 22:05

YANBU - I don't let my kids watch it as it annoys me so much and yes I am sad but for some reason it really gets me .
I feel as a preschool programme they should be demonstrating it correctly.

LetThereBeRock · 10/03/2010 22:22

YABVU.

He may be doing it to better show what he's doing or he may not be able to write while holding a pen 'properly'.

I can't write legibly in a standard grip as I'm dyspraxic and trying to make me do so imho is no different to making someone who is left handed write with their right hand because that's seen as the norm.

I don't believe in such a thing as a correct grip, so long as one can write reasonably legibly I don't think it matters how the pen is held.

MilaMae · 10/03/2010 22:38

Sorry holding your pencil properly is vital when learning to right it really does hold back the process. You may learn to cope with it but it effects flow and formation.

However having a left handed 6 year old who has been told/shown continuously/daily how to hold his pencil correctly and still isn't I'd say you really don't need to stress. Your dc won't take a blind bit of notice notice.

The Penagain is our current fav pencil grip of choice(for those interested),is the first one that he really has continuously held properly and does so for a while after(albeit briefly).

I acknowledge I too sooooooo need to get out more

MilaMae · 10/03/2010 22:39

By 'right' I meant 'write'- said sons spellings on my brain

LetThereBeRock · 10/03/2010 22:42

I didn't have to 'cope' with it. It works for me and always has.

I do become tired of writing sooner than most people, my hand hurts quite quickly but that happens with all things I do because I have dyspraxia/low muscle tone.

nobodysfool · 10/03/2010 22:46

If the kids make a comment that Mr. Maker is holding his pen incorrectly i suggest they are too old to be watching Cbeebies anyway.

MilaMae · 10/03/2010 22:52

That's great but it doesn't work for many children.

They can't put the correct pressure on their paper and thus don't have enough control. Their letters will often not be formed correctly as a result. This can impact spelling,they most certainly will be judged on it and teachers will assume they know less than they do as they can't read what they've written.Their hands will ache so they write less,hate writing. Their hand may be in the way so they can't see to form the letters correctly thus making joined writing extremely difficult and non joined writing very difficult to read.

I wasn't taught to swim correctly and do my own thing, I can't breath properly or move my legs correctly to go faster. To swim correctly would be most beneficial. Writing is something we all do daily,it's very important that children are given the chance to learn it correctly.

The op however is neither here nor there,as I said previously they wouldn't even notice it let alone mimic it.

LetThereBeRock · 10/03/2010 22:57

If they can write using the correct grip then fine, and some encouragement to do so is also fine but it doesn't work for every child and my teachers,thankfully,realised that trying to get me to write using the standard grip was causing more problems than it was solving.

I think whatever works for the child is the important thing,obviously if they can't see what they're writing or finding their usual grip particuarly tiring then it isn't working for them and perhaps the standard grip would be better for them,but as I've mentioned the standard grip can cause problems for some children.

LetThereBeRock · 10/03/2010 22:58

'They can't put the correct pressure on their paper and thus don't have enough control. Their letters will often not be formed correctly as a result. This can impact spelling,they most certainly will be judged on it and teachers will assume they know less than they do as they can't read what they've written.Their hands will ache so they write less,hate writing'

These are all issues that teachers trying to force me to hold the pen correctly caused me so it can work both ways.

This is a rather touchy subject for me as you can tell.

MilaMae · 10/03/2010 23:06

It may but I think the benefits for the majority(which is what we're talking about) would outweigh the negatives ie somebody putting in the time to show/ensure it's done properly.

Have to say if you get em young the vast maj of kids can hold a pencil correctly. I can hardly recall any leaving my rec/Y1 classes not holding correctly.

As a school we used to do pointing/pinching exercises though for a couple of minutes pre daily pre-handwriting lessons.

My son never had that so it's a sort of horse/bolted thing and he's got into a bad habit-we're nearly there though.

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