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Original poster

to not look after this little girl tomorrow because...

26 replies

Summerfruit · 08/03/2010 18:31

She made 3 diaerheas (sp?) today and didnt eat all and doesnt look right. Her dad thinks I am. Last week she had the same and on the week end before coming to me she had a vomiting bug. They brought her back saying that she was well enought. She didnt vomit but didnt eat and had diahrea (sorry sp again !) again hence we were all sick 2 days after and my mindees as well. In my policies, it says that the exclusion 24/48 hours but somehow they always convince me oh she was fine, well maybe with them but not with me... So what do you think ???

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heQet · 08/03/2010 18:34

Not at all unreasonable.

Lonnie · 08/03/2010 18:50

Not unresonable not at all

Original poster
Summerfruit · 08/03/2010 18:52

Thank you very much, I need to be firm on that one !

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Onestonetogo · 08/03/2010 18:58

YANBU

BigBadMummy · 08/03/2010 18:59

YADNBU.

That sounds shocking, poor little girl.

I would also be questioning why she is still vomiting/pooing like that a week later.

nickytwotimes · 08/03/2010 19:00

Yanbu in the least.

activate · 08/03/2010 19:01

24 to 48 hour exclusion around gastric conditions to protect other children in your care

as with schools

Original poster
Summerfruit · 08/03/2010 19:27

And she also lost a lot of weight and looks very very pale when I told my concers to the dad, he told me to stop being fussy. Its obvious he thinks I'm a twat

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chipmonkey · 08/03/2010 20:13

No, they are chancing their arm! You need to be quite firm that the rules are that you can't take her back till 48 hours later. They have to take care of her themselves or make other arrangements. If this doesn't fit in with work, then they need a nanny, not a CM.

chipmonkey · 08/03/2010 20:16

Should add I am a WOHM and it is a huge nuisance for me if the children are ill but I don't expect the nursery to go against guidelines. Either MIL takes care of them or dh works from home.

damnedchilblains · 08/03/2010 20:22

YANBU also, you are putting your other mindees at risk. You have to be firm and tell them this. They know the rules, I used to be a cm and got so fed up of people taking the piss. Tell them their child is ill and you are sorry but cannot take her as it is a bug that is likely to be passed to you and your family as well as the other children in your care.

Heated · 08/03/2010 20:28

Practise what you want to say: Your dd had 3 bouts of diarrhea today, nor did she eat. The policy for childminders and nurseries is she cannot attend for 48h hrs to allow time for the virus to clear and prevent cross infection. I look forward to welcoming her back on Thursday when she is recovered.

Are you contacting them tonight?

mistletoekisses · 08/03/2010 20:32

YANBU

I cannot believe the parents are sending their DD in when she is quite evidently unwell. DS was under the weather recently and just wanted cuddles all day. I would never have sent him to nursery - irrespective of how inconvenient it is.

Stick to your guns. Is the best for you/ your mindees but also the young girl.

atworknotworking · 08/03/2010 20:49

Just wanted to add my support as a fellow CM, you are DNBU. HPA guidelines state 48hrs after the LAST evacuation whether its up or down. Poor little thing must be feeling really awful after continual illness, not eating, loosing weight. Be firm with parents, you and your family have also been recipients of the last bout of lurgy its not fair that you should have to catch it too.

I've had this in the past and it seems to be the thin end of the wedge before you know it other things will crop up as well, like late pick ups and can you just do this that and the other. The parents should have respect for you, your family and the other mindees you care for, partnerships work both ways.

junglist1 · 08/03/2010 21:08

How selfish of them!

emmymama · 08/03/2010 21:10

ds school tells you to keep them off for 2 days after symptoms have gone to keep the other kids safe..

emmymama · 08/03/2010 21:10

ds school tells you to keep them off for 2 days after symptoms have gone to keep the other kids safe..

emmymama · 08/03/2010 21:13

ds school tells you to keep them off for 2 days after symptoms have gone to keep the other kids safe..

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 08/03/2010 21:20

YANBU at all.

Our nursery (for ds2) and CM (for ds1) both have 48 hour exclusion policies after and diarrhoea or vomiting. It is a PITA - usually they seem fine after 24 hours but rules are rules and there for a reason - to protect others. They are being extremely selfish to try to send their unwell child into your care.

emmymama · 08/03/2010 21:23

sorry for all the posts

nannynobnobs · 08/03/2010 21:38

I can't believe her parents are fobbing her off when she is ill poor girl. How old is she?
My DD2 has been puking this weekend and now she's on the mend she's given it to me and possibly her sister we are a house of relentless handwashing atm.

Original poster
Summerfruit · 09/03/2010 07:48

Well I got a text saying that she had a good meal yesterday evening as she was very hungry and looks very happy. They said they were going to ask another cm to look after their little girl for the day. She is 16 months old.

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mistletoekisses · 09/03/2010 08:17

Let them find another CM. They are quite firmly in the wrong. I am an adult and after I have been ill, one good meal in me does not make me well. It takes a couple of days to recover.

I think parents who put childcare professionals in this position are well out of order. I was dropping DS off at nursery one morning when another mother dropped her DD off - told the staff she wasnt 100% and had given her some calpol that morning and was off in a flash. I felt like asking her wtf she was doing dropping her DD off in that case as opposed to keeping her home. Instead had to have a word with the nursery manager and she had to have words with the parents. If all parents were this selfish, bugs would go round nurseries/ CM's all the time.

QuintessentialShadows · 09/03/2010 08:21

Yanbu.
To turn it around, if I was a parent of one of your other mindees, I would be seriously pissed off to find that my childcare provider did not follow their own guidelines, and allowed a child with a d&v bug in the setting. I would lose trust, to be honest. Because it would mean that my child could get ill, I would have to take time off work, possible get it myself, etc.

You need to be firm on this.

Shaz10 · 09/03/2010 08:26

Oh it does my head in this. YANBU at all. I see children being brought into class, thin, grey and miserable "Oh he was sick earlier but he's ok now" and they bugger off before you have a chance to refuse. Of course half an hour later they throw up everywhere and 30 kids and the adults all catch it. Selfish bar stewards. Let them find another CM and get someone whose dad is not a sod.