to think military planes and choppers shoud not fly over central London at 4 in the morning?

[Sonilaa]

Actually not sure what the time really was, but they were LOUD and it went on and on and on.

Anyway, my 3year old wokw up, the baby woke up, I woke up and couln*t go back to sleep... trying to figure out who to complain to....

Oh no, much better for them to do it in the middle of the day, dodging passenger jets going to heathrow/gatwick/city airport.

Or perhaps they should just do a really circuitous route over land where no one lives (tricky in the South East).

Or teleportation?

YABU they don't do it for fun, be thankful they don't do it every day

Yes, must timetable wars and things at more sensible hours.

If they fitted the flights in to suit everyone, they wouldn't fly at all. We often used to get woken by whole squadrons of tornados going off at 1/2/3/4 am but it wasn't every day, so it was acceptable

There would have been a reason - it would not have been a jolly or a training exercise.

Nice cheery idea for a monday Riven

Thats better!

How do you know for sure they are all military? The choppers might be police. We had them all the time over Bristol and they help the ground squads with tracking joy riders etc they need to hover for ages sometimes. Don't you watch police camera action? And IMHO I don't think the Avon and Somerset chopper was 9-5 either more 24-7. They are a fact of modern life. Ref the planes when we lived in London we were bang under the Heathrow flight path and yes 4:00 am is often the start for earliest landing slots, so it may well be commercial aviation. Finally some Police forces employ drones to monitor events Greater Manc Police up here use them so is this just a general swipe at HMF perchance?

I yet have to see a police chopper with two rotors. Plus it was a few planes + choppers flying along the river.

And the military aircraft are much louder than commercial or police ones.

YABU unless it is every single night.

probably a chinook, they are loud

they often fly over us on the way to Odiham (where I think they go and sit)

we are on a helicopter flight path (there is one! you can google it) but I don't even notice it anymore

probably was moving some royal about!

Do you remember Concorde Sonilaa they were much louder and a large jumbo over Hounslow pretty f---ing loud .yes you are right soes sound like Military chinooks and they too can be loud but is it the same squad every night endlessly doing this or was it just a couple of times?