AGGHH dog owners please stop

[Tiredmumno1]

Right this post is just directed to those of you who think its ok to let your dog of its lead especially in the presence of others, i am so sick of dogs running over and scaring the hell out of my little boy, and when i say he really doesnt like them, the response is the dogs alright it wont hurt, you try explaining that to a 3 year who is shit scared and crying. And on top of that why do i want your dogs dirty scummy paws on my coat after the fucking thing has jumped up at me. Seriously some people dont like dogs, just remember that and have some sense, and those of you that do keep your dogs on leashes or at least under control, well done and praise to those who pick up the dog crap, and shame to those who dont.

Flightattendant 'However if it is aggressive enough to inflict a serious bite (yes even if provoked with relative ease) then I think you know as well as I it needs a muzzle. Your dog is probably well within these boundaries.'

But that's my point - my darling dog - not my devil dog - should be safe from the attentions of kids if on lead by my side. She mild and sweet natured but terrifed of children. I get fed up of repeatedly asking them to leave her alone and them ignoring me. She doesn't need a muzzle - they need to listen!

BTW if parents think a Reception age child is not 'trainable' then that could explain why I have been slapped and punched by some 4 and 5 year olds while working this weekend.........think I may have to start a thread along these lines.............

We live at the bottom of a cul-de-sac with a footpath into the forest. You would be amazed at how many inconsiderate fuckwits drive down, park in the turning bit, let their yappy little rats/ slavering hell hounds of doom out of the car and let them shit all over the footpath. The forest is 6 feet away. And my DS1 appears to have shit magnets on his shoes, we rarely get into the forest without at least one treading in poo incident. Oh, and the joys of getting it on the pram wheels and not realising until you are in the house...

My dog is, of course, an angel. .

Can I also ask that those of you who let their dogs off the lead keep an eye on your dog at all times in case they poo please?

I've come across 2 dog owners whose (well behaved) dogs have been off their leads and trailing behind their owners who haven't noticed them crapping on the footpath, which also happens to be outside a nursery and a safe walking route to the local school. Both men have cleaned it up when I pointed it out to them (although one man was pretty obnoxious about it), but if I hadn't have said anything, they wouldn't have noticed, and the dog crap would now be on some child's shoe

Does anyone have any solutions to the dog fouling issue? The road that we walk on to get into town is less than a mile long, but always has about ten counts of dog mess on the pavement, whichever side of the road you choose to walk on. At the end of our road two months ago a dog did the (sorry, horrible) hugest amount of poo I've ever seen. It was like an elephant's poo, I imagine. It is still there, in a flatter form! How can I let my toddler walk around like this? I'm so despairing that I've said to dh I want to move to a nicer, less doggy-doo area. Is there another solution?

i don't like 3 year olds very much so perhaps you could keep yours indoors. Learn some tollerance please

I honestly don't think it matters where you move to - there are dog owners all over the country/world who genuinely don't see the need to pick up their dog's poo. I just can't understand this - surely they don't like scraping dog sh*t off their shoes, or their pram wheels or their kids clothes? I suppose th problem is that it only takes a few dog owners who don't pick up, walking their dog/s twice a day, for an area to be covered with the stuff.

I'm positive that there are MNs out there who don't pick up, given the numbers who post on this forum. I'd love them to explain why they don't pick up, I really would, because I'm completely mystified.

Reality Check - there are millions of dogs in the UK, so in addition to dog owners needing to train and exercise their animals responsibly (inc poo bags), parents need to support their children in engaging with dogs that they will meet.

Children may well be startled by a bouncing dog, but they should be taught that there's generally nothing to fear, and how they should talk to and treat the animal in response. I.e. ideally not screeching, poking, pulling or running away. If children have an unfortunate incident which means that they have a tangible reason to be scared then parents and others who care for children really owe it to the little'uns to reduce that fear - because dogs just aren't going away...and in my opinion the world is enhanced because of the furry little critters.

When I came into the lives of my DSC (then 3 & 4) they were utterly terrified of dogs, doing the crazy screeching and trying to climb up your legs thing if even a perfectly calm dog wandered even within metres of them. Within a relatively short space of time, by using patience and consistency they are now comfortable with almost any dog who they come across when out and about, and get masses of joy from scampering about with my Mum's dog - and even ask for doggie sleepovers so that the dog is here in the morning when they wake up. A much healthier situation given the reality of dog ownership in the UK and a smiley-happy-ending methinks.

It's a dog, not a person. No one is under any obligation to tolerate someone else's fecking dog.

All those who don't want dog poo on the streets - I have suggested a campaign on this thread - please post!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_campaigns/920991-Time-for-a-campaign-to-clear-British-streets-of-DOG

I love dogs but think the mess is totally unacceptable.

Startled by a bouncing dog?? If your dog is liable to bounce about and jump up at people then it isn't well enough trained to be off it's lead.

It is irresponsible to place the onus on people out walking to react calmly to a dog bounding up to their small child and running around them or knocking them over. If a dog makes a run for my child, and doesn't respond to heel immediately, then I'll assume the worst, will lift my child and instruct the dog owner to get their dog off. Smiley-happy-endings will come about when dog owners respect the fact that not everyone appreciates smelly, muddy, barking dogs lunging at them.

Amen, Maisie!

I also always carry my Leki telescoping titanium walking stick with me, too.

That usually leave off bounding up at us when I see that.

Children may well be startled by a bouncing dog, but they should be taught that there's generally nothing to fear, and how they should talk to and treat the animal in response. I.e. ideally not screeching, poking, pulling or running away.*

yeh thats what my cousin taught his ds

the dog ran up and dc went to pat the dog gently - the dog bite him n the cheek of his face

I have taught both my dd to be wary of dogs as they may bite even if the owner is shouting oh dear he has never bitten before. best to be wary and save your face and fingers.

I am not keen on dream of fun and think they should be for bed only never to be let out

They usually leave off bounding at us!

Sorry (one eye on the Olympics).

been said a million times on mn dog threads. bounding up to people and jumping at people - totally unacceptable. but it's not reasonable, or in anyone's interest, to have all dogs on leads. it would be impossible to exercise most dogs adequately on leads. and dogs who aren't exercised properly are not happy. and therefore more likely to be badly behaved.

also been said a million times. please get it into your heads that the vast majority of dog owers pick up poo. just think about it for a minute. it takes one dog, doing 2 poos a day, on the same route, to leave that route covered in the stuff. everyone else walking their dog along that route is clearing up. believe me if they weren';t you'd be wading in the stuff, not just jumping around to avoid it.

Yanbu, op.

And kids shouldn't pat dogs wthout checking either.

Love dogs, but my ds is terrified of them and leaping ones make him screech.

A well trained, well controlled dog is a thing of joy, bit like kids. Ones that are out of control are an utter pain in the arse.

Cost of picking up dog shit..... £68,000pa shared between 8000 households. And people wonder why the council tax goes up.

People who own dogs... if you are walking them in the Parish of Hayfield High Peak please pick it up and take the bag of shit with you. I am sick of being threatened by people who feel that it is their dog's puppy rights to crap all over the playgrounds and even worse those who pick it up put it in a bag and throw it over a wall when nobody is looking.

I've seen many threads of this kind before and they will run and run. The bottom line (no pun intended) is that we will never rid our land of dog crap, badly trained dogs, bad owners, cruel owners, badly trained children or over-reacting humans. We can only seek to do our best - as responsible dog owners to clear up after them and train them, as parents to teach our DC not to screech every time a dog comes near or to approach a dog without asking.

It has sadly got to a stage where I feel as guilty as sin for what I do... I walk my dogs on common land where there are no bins so bag poo up and pop it to one side, continue my walk and collect and bin it at the end (I have 2 large dogs and a dodgy arm so holding on to dogs when people approach although my dogs are fine and friendly is my priority). I always feel like someone is watching me and is ready to rollock me when they see me pop a poop bag to the side prior to me disposing of it!

The up-side is that there are far, far more good owners than bad but, as has been said, no-one remembers those.

By 2old4thislark Sun 28-Feb-10 18:30:41
'Flightattendant 'However if it is aggressive enough to inflict a serious bite (yes even if provoked with relative ease) then I think you know as well as I it needs a muzzle. Your dog is probably well within these boundaries.''

By that I meant that I expect your dog does not bite unless badly and extensively provoked...not that it bites easily. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

'But that's my point - my darling dog - not my devil dog - should be safe from the attentions of kids if on lead by my side. She mild and sweet natured but terrifed of children. I get fed up of repeatedly asking them to leave her alone and them ignoring me. She doesn't need a muzzle - they need to listen!'

If by being 'terrified' you mean she is liable to nip, that's not too bad...but an actual bite and the child sustaining injury is imo worthy of muzzling her or alternatively, walking her somewhere she is unlikely to encounter a child. You may expect 6yos to listen to you and fair enough, but what if a 2yo wanders up...there's no way they would be safe, is there?

'BTW if parents think a Reception age child is not 'trainable' then that could explain why I have been slapped and punched by some 4 and 5 year olds while working this weekend.........think I may have to start a thread along these lines.............'

I have no idea why you were hurt by these children or the context in which it happened, but I don't know many 4 or 5 yos who would slap or punch a grown up, provoked or not. And I said in my earlier post that it was around this age that they did start to become reliable in terms of instructions.