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AIBU to pick a house based on the catchment area of a school when my DS is only 7 months old??

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whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 16:20

Okay, first time posting in AIBU, so go easy on me I didn't know whether this was better going in Education, or a topic about moving house, or here...

Bit of background, DP and I have had the house up for sale for 18 months. We are desperate to move nearer to work because the commute is a total PITA. We finally have a buyer and so we have cranked up the house hunting. We want this move to be quite a long term thing, make it our home and not have to think about moving for a long time! In fact, we really really don't want to have to move again for at least 10 years! We have a DS who is now 7 months old, and we want this to be the house he grows up in. We think we have narrowed the search down to two houses. Both houses are really nice- House number one is on a cul-de-sac, somewhere I can imagine DS and possible future DCs playing out in the street. Its near to shops and other amenities (sp?!), I really like it. House number two is on a main road, but still a really nice house, and has the same access to facilites and the like. However, I couldn't let DC play out at the front of the house, and we have a little CKC Spaniel, and I would be pretrified everytime the front door opened in case she got out (she is very fast!). However, the main difference between the two is that house one is outside the catchment area for my prefered primary and secondary school for DS (and future DCs), whereas house two is right in the middle of the catchment area.

So am I being unreasonable to consider living in a house when I am not totally happy with the location from and day to day living perspective because it is in the catchment for the schools? Its not the worst location in the world, but I definetly prefer house one. The primary school that DS would have to go if we went to house one recently improved their Ofsted report, from a 4 to a 3 and the secondary school is equally bad, being threatened with closure, notoriously bad. AIBU to be even considering catchment areas when my DS is only 7 months old?! With the likely change is power coming up in the next election, is it likely this system will change anyway?? This house is somewhere we want to live for a long time, so moving again in 3-4 years time is not an option. I know that knowing DS will have the best chance at the better school will be a huge relief to me, and huge weight off my mind, but I don't know if I want to live in a house where I am worried about the dog getting out all the time, no-one can park outside of it, getting in and out of the drive will be a right pain, and DS won't have as much freedom. Argh, I just don't know what to do, I really don't. DP is equally stuck, although he is more of the opinion that if you are good enough, you will do well at whatever school you go to. I disagree, because I know how bad the secondary school (in particular) is. AIBU to be even considering the performance of a school now, when it could be completely different in 3, 4, 10 years time?!

Please help me, I have been turning this over in my head for weeks now, and if I don't make my mind up soon, both houses will end up getting sold before we get chance to buy them!

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Jamieandhismagictorch · 05/02/2010 16:23

I think you have to go with the house, and cross the schools bridge when you come to it ....

mjinhiding · 05/02/2010 16:24

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madwomanintheattic · 05/02/2010 16:25

a lot can happen to a school in four years
change of management often results in huge difference in both directions. a school in special measures can become outstanding with the right leadership, an outstanding school can go downhill when the management team get poached to run schools in special measures

like you say, it might change, it might not...

potplant · 05/02/2010 16:28

People do much worse to get their DCs into certain schools. I'm with Jamie - go for the right house.

My DCs go our first choice local school which 3 years ago when we applied was getting 2's and 3's. Its now in special measures and parents are pulling the kids out in droves. A couple of years time it ay well be outstanding (because of all the £££ and support they are getting from the Govt).

You have no idea how things will change.

Paolosgirl · 05/02/2010 16:31

Go for the house in the cul-de-sac. You'll be a nervous wreck living on a main road with a toddler and a dog, and it's great to be able to let them play outside (and on their own as they get older)- so many children just don't get that opportunity nowadays.

As others have said, schools can and do change over time - and you could always move again if absolutely necessary.

fernie3 · 05/02/2010 16:32

I would not pick a house based on schools at that age. Schools change alot in 4 years and even if you live next door to the school it doesnt garuntee you a place anyway. There are two schools closer to us than the one we were offered!.

wingandprayer · 05/02/2010 16:32

Why choose either? Why not wait a bit longer and see if the right house in the right area comes up? Seems to me that whichever you choose you have got 4 years wondering "what if", so why set yourself up for that?

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 16:33

I understand what you are saying, and I agree, but then I think of the piece of mind of definetly being in the catchment for good schools, against being in the catchment for schools that may get better, or waiting for the catchment to change. The preferred schools have been consistently good for a number of years, so I would be really really surprised if they took a sharp down-turn. The secondary school is an ex-grammar school, and still holds a lot of the grammar school values, and I really like that about it. Argh, but then I am reminded that it is possible that this could all be very different in a few years time.

What are the chances that the catchment area scheme will get scrapped in there is a change of Government?

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bruffin · 05/02/2010 16:34

Wouldn't have touched DCs' secondary with a bargepole when DS was 7 months, now it's one of the best schools in the area.

We live in a cul-de-sac and it's been lovely for the dcs.

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 16:34

wingandprayer my dad says we should rent and wait for the 'perfect' house, but it means moving again?

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wingandprayer · 05/02/2010 16:38

We bought house in catchment for popular local school before we had kid. Not on purpose, just worked out By coincidence that we only 200 yards from them. Still didn't get in last year school was so over subscribed.

That kind of opposite message to my previous post but I kind of wanted to say I do understand your thinking and would probably do the same, but even when we albeit accidentally ended up in the right catchment it still didn't work out.

muggglewump · 05/02/2010 16:39

YANBU I don't suppose, but things change.
I live in Scotland, here we mainly just send our kids to the nearest school, and though DD's school was fine before, it's great now with a change of head.
There's people applied from out of catchment, because it's so good, which doesn't happen much in my area.

You might find yourself right in the catchment for a school in special measures, with everyone clamouring to get into the now bad school by the time your DS goes.

Also, I know more than a few children who have been very happy at so called bad schools, and some schools that are great on paper, but it's all for show.

Make sure the school you want is actually great and will stay that way, and as much as you can with a 7yr old, that your DC will be happy there.

wingandprayer · 05/02/2010 16:41

Better to move house twice to right house than once to wrong one.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 05/02/2010 16:47

I love living in London, but would so love for my DCs to be able to play out in the street like I did when I was a child.

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 16:49

true wingandprayer and that is exactly the reason why I am agonising about it so much, I really don't want it to be the wrong choice. I know that once we have moved, DP will not agree with moving again just to get into a catchment area.

I know what your saying mugglewump wrt DS being happy in his school, I definetly want that. But I also want him to be happy because he has the choice to do whatever he wants in life and not be held back.

It looks as though the first house in the cul-de-sac is winning the votes though!

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noddyholder · 05/02/2010 16:52

We have just sold our house to a couple who wanted the school near us it is a secondary and the little girl was 3!

Jamieandhismagictorch · 05/02/2010 16:52

whenskiesaregrey - with respect, stop worrying about schools now. I don't think children get "held back" half as much as people worry about.

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 16:55

I know, I should just go with the flow...

but... argh!

Okay, okay, going with the tide of opinions! Will show this to DP later!

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Hassled · 05/02/2010 16:56

Go for the good house you like. A lot can change in a school in 4 years - and one which is only just Satisfactory is going to be getting a lot of LA attention and input. Sometimes failing schools become excellent in a very short space of time, just because the Ofsted means the school finally gets the support and resources it needs.

I live on a main road - was no fun when the DCs were little. You get used to traffic noise but I do fret about fumes etc. I wouldn't recommend it.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 05/02/2010 16:56

Wait though - you'll get hundreds more responses ........

probono · 05/02/2010 17:01

I would look for house three. How possible is this?

Otherwise house one.

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 17:01

you do realise that by saying that, the opinions will now grind to a halt?!

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Sonnet · 05/02/2010 17:02

School catchment areas can change - we are just going through a change here...

Go for the house/location you prefer
Good Luck

whenskiesaregrey · 05/02/2010 17:03

Quite possible probono, we have not commited to either house yet. I am rightmove's biggest fan at the moment!

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Runoutofideas · 05/02/2010 17:15

I think the catchment does matter..or it would to me. Not catchment so much as proximity to good school or schools. We had to compromise and get a house on the main rd very near a good school, as houses down nice quiet roads in the same area were too expensive for us. For me, the compromise was worth it as dd1 is now in reception in a lovely, well regarded school and is very happy.
However in your position, it doesn't sound like either house is 100% right - maybe it would be worth waiting a bit longer to see what else comes onto the market. Easter time is tradionally a busier time for the housing market so more may appear...

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