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to want to protect all children

28 replies

LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 16:46

I know photo's on facebook are cute but have been alarmed how many children's photo's i have been able to see whilst searching for old school friends and really want to start a campaign so nobody can access children's photos. I have managed to trace a few old friends but have alarmingly been able to see photo's of their children in the bath or just in nappies and think if we all worked together everyone could reset their privacy so their children are safe

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CantSupinate · 30/01/2010 16:49

So what are you going to do, ban all pictures of any child's skin anywhere on the Internet? Including in adverts, and on family websites?

I think it's a case of struggling to shut a small barn door after a thousand horses already bolted away.

TheFallenMadonna · 30/01/2010 16:51

Protect them from?

MarineIguana · 30/01/2010 16:52

Can you explain what exactly is the danger of a child's photo being on the internet?

I agree it's probably unwise to show pics of your kids half-dressed or undressed, and we only put pics of DS on sitrs where we can control who sees them. But a pic of your child in itself isn't problematic is it?

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 30/01/2010 16:53

What ,so someone's aunty can see them?

Sad truth is no one will trawl facebook to look at photos of children.

Harsh and extreme pornography is widely available.

MarineIguana · 30/01/2010 16:53

And if they shouldn't be on the Web, it also shouldn't be OK to have photos of kids in newspapers, magazines or show kids on telly should it? What's the difference?

Lulumama · 30/01/2010 16:55

I have pics of my DCs on facebook, but only accesible to friends. am often surprised at how many people don;t do that and friends of friends or anyone can see their images

i find images of drunken people flashing their bits and teens posting pics of themselves looking far older and more sexualised far more concerning and worrying than a picture of a baby in a nappy

my children are no more or no less safe due to a picture on th enet, they remain safe by myself and DH looking after them, using appropriate childcare and using common sense.

removing pics of children in the bath will not stop paedophilia in its tracks

it existed aeons before the internet

LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 16:57

not bothered about family so much but one of the people i found has been friends with one of the woman in the vanessa george case and was telling me how she could not understand how the woman would have got hold of photos of peoples children via facebook but her photo's are available to everyone to see not just friends or even friends of friends

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chocolaterabbit · 30/01/2010 16:58

Those people for whom privacy is important will have set their settings accordingly already, those that don't care won't respond to a campaign even if everyone agreed that it was necessary.

I think you're being a bit hysterical to be honest. What exactly do you expect to happen to a child whose parents have a photo of them on the beach on their facebook page?

LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 16:58

good points lulamama but we could at least try and make it harder for them

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LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 17:00

chocolaterabbit most people don't realise that when you had to reset all your privacy info you also had to do the same with your photo's so some people won't be aware

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LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 17:01

MarineIguana there are rules regarding children being on tv and in magazines toprotect kids we don't have that with facebook

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Lulumama · 30/01/2010 17:02

I honestly think that someone who is sexually rouased by children is not going to trawl facebook to find pics, there are plenty of sites out there , sadly, that are far more interesting to paedophiles

sweetkitty · 30/01/2010 17:08

I agree completely lulumama, if you want to find indecent images of children I think FB is one of the last places you look, it sadly is widely available.

I think the world has gone mad when innocent pictures of peoples children are banned or not allowed on the net.

And if someone were to find a picture of my DC and use it for erm their own fetishes, my children are unaware and therefore unaffected by it.

chocolaterabbit · 30/01/2010 17:09

I think the facebook/ photos thing is a distraction from the real issue which is that parents need to keep an eye on their children and exercise their judgement about safety generally.

It isn't possible to create a safe little club for all DCs - look at the govt database proposed. It isn't going to deal with family members which is where most abuse occurs, it isn't going to pick up on everyone who might want to harm/abuse children but has managed to evade suspicion. Parents have to take on this responsibility themselves and ensure they have taken whatever steps they consider necessary to protect their DCs.

Accessibility of facebook pictures isn't a massive deal in the scheme of things.

chocolaterabbit · 30/01/2010 17:10

Also, sorry to be a pedant but photos doesn't have or need an apostrophe.

ImSoNotTelling · 30/01/2010 17:10

Agree with lulumama and sweetkitty. Completely.

LesbianMummy1 · 30/01/2010 17:12

chocolate rabbit was not sure hence why i tried it both with and without the apostrophe

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seeker · 30/01/2010 17:16

Protect all children from what?

TheFallenMadonna · 30/01/2010 17:17

Do you think that facebook makes children themselves more vulnerable?

mawbroon · 30/01/2010 17:18

I have read that

photos (plural of photo) or

photo's (shortened version of photographs, using the apostrophe to indicate the missing letters)

are both correct.

Can't remember where I read it though, but logically it makes sense to me that you can use either.

Lovecat · 30/01/2010 17:19

We'd better ban the Next Directory and the La Redoute catalogues then - they have pictures of children in SWIMSUITS fgs! Some of the babies have bare top halves!!! And bare legs!

Seriously, if someone is going to get illicit thrills from ordinary pictures of children, that's their problem and I'm not going to support anything that stops my friends from being able to see pics of DD (her godfather lives in America and we have friends all over the world who we keep in touch with via FB).

cory · 30/01/2010 17:37

All illustrated parenting books also to be banned, including the Bounty pack; they've got babies in nappies in there.

Lulumama · 30/01/2010 17:51

i think as someone said a bit lower down, that this is distracting from the real issues and there are children at risk, but i don't think that removing pics of babies in nappies or little girls in a swimsuit,. or boys in their trunks is actually going to have an impact

i think the notion of wanting to protect all children is a very noble cause, but it is soooooo mcuh more complex than a knee jerk 'get baby pics off facebook'

but i think more discussion about how to safeguard our children on teh net and how to ensure they know how to keep themselves safe is far more valuable

Lulumama · 30/01/2010 17:51

it was chocolaterabbit who said that...

chegirlsgotheartburn · 30/01/2010 18:39

When my DCs are playing on the green outside my house there could but tens of pervs wanking away inside their front rooms watching them.

I am not going to stop them playing outside.

Its not going to harm a child if a peado finds a pic on FB and uses it for sexual gratification. Its not a nice thought but who the hell knows whats going on out there?

I think people who have been in abusive relationships or who have adopted children need to be VERY aware of how easy it is to track people down via face book but protecting children from peados by removing snaps from FB doesnt make any sense to me.

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