to think that my daughter shouldn't be able to cut her own hair in class

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without a teacher noticing?!

She's come home with an asymmetrical fringe, there is no note in her book, and it transpires that another girl did the same thing earlier in the day (only the teacher did see and discipline her for that).

I know that they have 30 children to look after, but if one child had already done this earlier, shouldn't they have been supervising the scissors more closely afterwards?!

She's in reception, if that makes any difference!

There was a thread about this not that long ago i'll try and find it, but i think you'll find most people wouldn't be bothered that much by it.

OK - sorry didn't realise there'd been a recent thread.

no problem just wanted to let u know, if i remember correctly, it got quite heated but the op was quite angry and some teachers took offence, i am still looking

supervision here is one but not he one i was thinking of

Meh, I didn't notice when my DD was trying to cut my hair.

Sorry OP, it's practically a rite of passage.

Here it is

Its when they get a bit older and they try and piece their ears with a school compass you need to worry .

and having a shag fag behind the bike shed .

DD cut a hole in her trousers in reception - we only mentioned it in passing to the teachers as we weren't overly bothered (but did have a strong word with DD) and I remember doing it to my dress when I was in primary school. The teachers were mortified and full of apologies and I'm pretty sure they've been monitoring scissor use a bit more vigorously after that.

I think they should be supervised so that things like this don't happen but you'll always get the odd accident. Agree with firstlady, a rite of passage and try not to get too worked up about it.

OK - IABU having skimmed the other threads .

And la la la, I'm not listening to you captainunderpants!!

yabu

I used to be a reception teacher. Just imagine your day if you had 30 4 and 5 year olds to supervise.

Now imagine your day if you had 30 4 and 5 year olds to supervise AND you had to teach them all, even the thick ones, not just your PFB:
to read, write, paint, count, sing, perform in the school nativity play, dance, throw beanbags, be kind to one another, put their hands up to go to the toilet, realise that five beans is always five beans no matter what you do to them, not to pee on the school toilet floor, tell a story, kick a ball, make eye contact when you talk to someone, to mix green paint from blue and yellow, make papier mache, grow cress, where coal comes from, who the Queen is....

I could go on.

Is annoying, I know. But your child should have known better - ooops, did I say that out loud?

This one title was something like 'i am so effing mad at the teacher'

The post i was looking for mainly had an outraged mum, a few people were like yeah complain take it to the head, and then pretty much everyone else said that scissors are easy access to the kids for some reason or another and then it is a part of school life, and the teachers only have two eyes,and they can't watch every child all the time.

The one i have linked to is less angry i think and more shocked because it would have taken very sharp scissor to hack through her dd's ponytail in one piece.

any who, i think it happens quite alot, and i wouldn't be that worried by it

I don't think YABU. Ok so yes it's hard to keep an eye on 30 odd children but it's not hard to lock away the scissors is it.

Surely in reception the teacher should have had some bloody common sense and locked the scissors away after the first girl cut her hair.

I'd understand if the children were a bit older but we are talking 4yr old's here. I wouldn't leave scissors lying around at home with a child of that age so I wouldn't expect school to.

My DS has an asymetric fringe but that because I got fed up with it being in his eyes and cut it with the kitchen scissors. When I take him to the hairdressers should I say one of the kids at school did it?

I completely know where you're coming from, but I agree with firstlady, it seems to be a rite of passage. I remember watching my friends under a table cutting eachothers hair when we were about 5 years old. Also, my brother decided he wanted a cardigan like I had rather than a jumper so cut a hole in it - I think it's curiosity, but the teacher does have quite a few children to watch and children have a habit of managing to cause havoc in milliseconds.

Children have access to scissors at all times during their free play. They are round-ended for safety but can still cut hair, clothes etc. The children who don't have access to scissors at home could be the ones who are fascinated by them and want to experiment! Most use them for their designated purpose luckily.

YABU - children are taught to be independent at school from the very beginning. Part of this is trust that during free play they behave appropriately with equipment. We teach children how to hold them and how to use them and tell them what to cut with them - we try not to say don't do this or that as they will get ideas.

Parents (and yes I am one myself) see the lovely child who is delicate/young/precious - add your own description - teachers see a young person.

The fringe thing is a pain but it happens in most schools. Cut it to some sort of shape and chalk it up to experience.

Reception classes these days are set up in such a way so that the children can choose their own activities. There's usually a role play area, a painting/craft area, sand, water, a writing table, reading corner etc.. and probably a cut & stick area. There's every chance your daughter chose her own activity & it just so happens it was playing hairdressers! Agree with the others - the teacher can only see so many things at once. It'll grow back. I cut my fringe at home when I was about 5, mum went mad even though I tried my best to convince her it was the cat!! x

DH said when he was in infant school there was a little girl with a pair of plaits and someone cut one of them off.

My DD trimmed her own fringe very short at home. I was very proud of myself for not going mad at her!

You shouldn't have to lock scissors away because a minority of children choose to cut their hair. Some children have very poor scissor skills and need to practice cutting shapes, making cards and so on. A part of any reception room is access to equipment and activities that extend skills, including fine motor skills. A good telling off from the teacher and mum usually stops any later hair cutting.

My dd has had a couple of hair cutting incidents. When she was really quite small ds cut a big chunk out of her pony tail (I was cross because dh didn't notice) haircutting was one of his favourite games (usually with tin openers and other non sharp kitchen objects). And then quite recently, because she had a big tangle she tried to cut out (back of her head, and she ended up chopping a big chunk very short - looks very odd now).

These things happen!

YABU

Your daughter cut her own hair and somehow that is the teachers responsibility?

When I was 4/5 I had a gingham school dress - I cut a few of the blue squares out along the hem line, I thought it looked nice I guess - however, (and after the fact of course!) I knew my Mum would go mental - (which she did!!), but never would have occured to either of us to blame the teacher!?

I would be annoyed if another child cut my childs hair in class and would speak to the teacher, but more to make sure the other parents knew - rather than blame the teacher... 30 kids, you can't keep your eye on all of them all the time!