To think that bitchiness between women is not in their favour?

[poshsinglemum]

Women can make great friends but they can also be so competetive and bitchy. I think that as is is not seemly to be aggressive as men are we have to get it off our chests by sniping behind each other's backs and/or sniping on here.

I think that we do each other a great disservice. Us girls should stick together. I have just read a thread which turned nasty as more fortunate women were mocking less fortunate women.

Surely that's unwise as people circumstances change all the time and we need each other in the good times aswell as the bad. I guess we are a competetive bunch though.

It just seems that women have it so much harder than men. Men can be against us (not all of the time but in general our society suits men better than women) and so can other women. It can feel so isolating.

I agree PSM.

much as I love mn i think you see it a lot on here (especially the WOHM and SAHM debate).

look,there is no "us girls".women arent a homogeneous mass of mammies and lassies.we are defined,driven and express ourselves as individuals

class
educational attainment
prosperity (or lack of)
etc
are contributory factors

but deluded to speak of we wimmin as a homogeneous mass.persue mn to see individual difference

I don't think women are more bitchy than men.

TBh I haven't noticed that women are more bitchy than men.

the op drips with lame cliché.bring tear to glass eye.dont be so fatalistic and downtrodden.and no "us girls" mafia exists thankfully.and if it did who fuck would join

men are bitchy too

and what SM said.
there are dozens of women on here that I have zero in common with and I'm not exactly sure what it is that would "stick us together"

I guess I was asking for it with a title like that wasn't I? And of course we are not a homogenous mass but a difference of opinion dosn't mean being a bitch and/or sniping behind people's back. i do like an upfront argument but nastyness is just well- nasty!

I like it when people are upfront with me.

I wonder if hormones have something to do with it?

No. Why the fuck should I support someone else I don't agree with just because they're a woman?

I think there is a divide on certain threads though.

I feel that sometimes the role of the person who stays at home is denigrated at times.As is the LP,and people on lower incomes.

Whether this is a predominantly female thing or a societal thing is open to debate.

I am half and half btw,as a pt bod re the sahm /wohm,lol

It depends what 'stick together' means.

If it means challenging sexism and working towards equality, then yes we should do that.

Men should also challenge sexism though.

If 'stick together' means side with a woman against a man in any circumstances, then I don't agree with it.

I dunno. This is not netmums and thank god for that.

I think when I mean 'stick together' I mean not derriding women for making poor choices and in rl being a girl's girl instead of a man's girl. I gues snot dumping your mates for a man, not bitching about other women's appearance and if a man ha sbeen shit to a woman sticking up for the woman and not the man.
I think what I'm getting at is being a feminist. i don't mena that we should be sickly sweet at all times and go all netmums.

I'm bored of arguing my case already!

again it all lies in the interpretation.some may cry bitch at an accurate but undesired response.

instead of falsely trying to group and homogenise mn,why not explore and celebrate the diversity

we are not the same
we are individual

I don't mean agreeing with people all the time. Disagreement is not being bitchy.

Bitchyness is sly backstabbing, ostracism and scheming imo. Not many mums are bitchy on here as an internet forum we have the luxury of being more upfront as it is realtively anon. I am referring to rl also.

sorry bout the typos.

psm,sorry but your premise is ill conceived.a dog with fleas

In real life I have met some women who have been sly backstabbers whilst pretending to agree with me. Of course it is bad for them aswell as me.

Isn't that the opposite of feminism though OP? You are making women stand apart from men. It isn't 'us women' but 'us people' surely??

never understood all this "us girls should stick together" stuff.

I think not being critical of people is a form of prejudice (and quite a common one). If I don't point out someone's errors at work (including poor choices) because they are a woman, then they are not going to learn and will keep making the poor choices.

what if men said us "Us boys should stick together"

we'd be understandably aghast

that isnt acceptable.so women shouldn't mimic such behaviour

scottishmummy I aggree

Having previously worked in places that were all men (and me!) and all women, men are soooooo much worse than women!