Nappy changes at Nursery

[Claire2009]

I've just changed DD & DS's nursery after a disagreement that neither would budge on, going to ask here and see what you all think too. DS is back in nappys it seems, he's totally not interested in TT anymore, so I send him into nursery and he comes out either leaking (too wet/full) or wet + poo. This was going on too much so I spoke with the Nursery.

Me - Can I have a word please.
Nursery - Of course.
Me - Well, DS is coming out with a soaking nappy/poo a bit much lately, whats going on? I send everything in.
Nursery - Oh, well we do change.
Me - Obviously not DS (Had just collected him & he was wet, so I showed her) as he's wet look
Nursery - Oh yes, well we do have a rota and check them all (eh, there's 3-4 kids in nappies), but generally we wait until 12.30pm for a child to have a nappy change.
Me - So if a childs done a poo he/she has to wait till then?
Nursery - Not always, it depends if we have checked/smelt a child
Me - So it depends on smell? Who checks?
Nursery - It varies

This went on and on, DS & DD come out at 12.15pm then I have them for a bit, before taking them to Creche and me to college. So obviously, due to their "change nappies at 12.30pm" DS wasn't getting changed. She then tried to push everything on me, saying I was to teach DS to come tell her/member of staff if he needs changing! DS has speech delay, and what 2yo is going to stop playing with his little friends, to go & tell someone he has done a wee/poo, he can say wee/poo (was TT for 4mths, but after a bug has decided nappies are great!) but I just can't see it happening. I said this and she got very defensive, this went on for 3 days and I could tell she was awkward with the kids because of it, so I've changed their nursery.

Am I being unfair? Or was she? Doesn't matter really but I'm just mad still.

YANBU - I'd be livid if DD left nursery in a wet/dirty nappy. Caring for a child includes changing their nappies.

YANBU at all you are within your rights to complain, you are paying all this money for them to provide a service make sure your ds is well looked after and cared for and they are not doing it. As for training him to tell them when he has done a wee/poo and needs changing . I have been trying to teach my 2.10 yo to do that for a year with no avail, when they are able to do that they are ready imo to be TT, gosh i hope my dd does that soon i am fed up with nappies and all her little friends in knickers.

I think your post is completely ridiculous, not on your part, purely due to the fact that this is a none issue!
As you rightly say, what 2yo (aside from the exceptions) is going to put fun on hold to go and tell someone they need a nappy change?!
Surely in agreeing to look after your child they are agreeing to look out for and care for each childs individual needs...I would class not having to sit in a soiled nappy as a pretty basic need.
I agree completely and whole heartedly with you and would have done the exact same thing had I been in your shoes.
Well done to a good mum xx

It doesnt matter now, you have changed nursery. Do they have better arrangements for nappy changing at the new nursery?

Yep they do, claw. Much much better.

Thanks.

How often do they change nappies? It is common practice in nurseries to do a nappy run at fixed times - 10am/12pm/2pm/4pm for example - and then only change in between if a child has pooed.

Good thats all that matters now. I think you did the right thing.

how bizarre of the nursery. You shoud raise it with Ofsted. They should have a 'policy' cos' everything had a policy these days.

Our nursery changes every 3 hours or when it is whiffy.

4-5 a day here. DS is a heavy wetter/poos twice a day.

I guess you know your own child though don't you, and if you know that your child is typically wet by noon then your routine would be to do the change when the nappy typically needed changing - the routine evolves out of what works usually. And the nursery should pick up on that.

Think you have done right in taking ds out of nursery if this is their attitude to nappy changes - sounds like the time has been set so they don't have to change your ds's nappy (do others leave around then too?)

What would have happened do you think if you had said straight out to them that you wanted your ds's nappy changing at noon-ish every day before you picked him up?

Definitely think it is worth reporting to ofsted!

Dont they drink more during the day?

DD's nursery change every two hours regardless (and write the times down for me).
i can tell they have calculated the two hours from when she has arrived even though we bring her at different times.
They also do extra changes when she poos, seem to notice - well you do don't you unless you have a clothes peg on your nose.
YANBU at all.
Interestingly i think the childminder we used for DS when he was small used to change him 1/2 hour before i came to collect but not much else and we had probs with nappy rash. i prefer the 2hourly change, it's much better esp if you don't know each chidl's toileting habits in detail.