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To be repulsed by the sight of David Cameron and those feckin' Tory posters EVERYWHERE?

59 replies

Lovecat · 03/01/2010 17:37

Have just come back from an afternoon out at the 02 Christmas fair, saw 6 of these enormous buggers on the short drive there and back!

Okay, GB is no pin-up either but he doesn't make my gorge rise the way DC does - and all the accompanying bollocks about 'we won't harm the NHS' (can't remember the exact wording but it made me shout abuse at it) - gaaah!

AIBU to think they should at least save the propaganda til the election is actually called? I can't take this from now until May!

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smallwhitecat · 03/01/2010 18:57

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gerontius · 03/01/2010 18:58

So basically, spend, spend, spend, the same as the Tories would have done, and the same as most other European countries did do?

mistletoekisses · 03/01/2010 19:00

And was just about to address the question of the banks but whitecat has beaten me too it.

GB has a hell of a lot to answer too! And that more people dont know it quite frankly scares the living bejeesus out of me!

sarah293 · 03/01/2010 19:00

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mistletoekisses · 03/01/2010 19:03

Of course taxes are going to have to rise. As is national insurance. And it is going to hit everyones pocket. But if anyone thinks that any government coming into power isnt going to have to do that - then they are wrong. It is going to take us years upon years to get ourselves out of this mess!

smallwhitecat · 03/01/2010 19:04

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Paolosgirl · 03/01/2010 19:04

Everyone knows that taxes will have to rise; it's how it's implemented and managed that concerns voters. We now have one of the most complex tax systems in the world, and more people living in poverty than ever before - it seems to me that GB et al are not to be held up as shining examples.

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PeachyRingsInTheOld · 03/01/2010 19:06

Agree with hbfac about policies. The big ones not the piddly little bits. I can't get an answer out of him about DLA for a start, i've tried talking to Tory HQ and all I get is 'we don't know'.

Helpful.

Although even if he did come out with some wizardry to save us all comments like that one from SWC which seem to repeatedly call anyone who votes other than her way stupid just make me twice as adamant to find an alternative box to mark with my X. Because frankly, that'sthe impression I think most Tories have of peoplelike me. Stu[pid, lazy, waste material.

Don't like DC, don't want to see his face everywhere because frankly as a vulnerable family it scares the shit out of me, but it is just something I will have to increasingly live with for the next half year. rather that thanlose democracy of course,maybe I should just buy very dark glasses and stare at the pavement

smallwhitecat · 03/01/2010 19:12

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nighbynight · 03/01/2010 19:14

I am not a tory, but I agree with you on that, swc.

skihorse · 03/01/2010 19:15

YABU and childish. One can only assume you'd prefer to live in a dictatorship.

nighbynight · 03/01/2010 19:16

YABU to be repulsed by DC - he is the cuddly face of capitalism!
But...as I dont feel like voting for either of the main parties, I'll go with a single issue that I feel very strongly about (having grown up in the country), and vote Labour, because the Tories want to bring hunting back.

PeachyRingsInTheOld · 03/01/2010 19:16

I don't vote labour SWC, but that sentiment does seem, by my reading, to shine through your posts on this subject. If I am wrong, I am pleased.

However, its unfair for me to get involved in a bunfight now as I am just about to ask MN to ban me for aweek (big MA essay- yuck), so if I am wrong I apologise unreservedly.

PeachyRingsInTheOld · 03/01/2010 19:18

Nighbynight being countryside raised isn't a qualifier for being pro-hunt- Dh and I both Somerset raised, both anti hunting, as arethe vast majority of people I know.

I don't have issue with the Countryside Alliance for what they believe, their choice, but I know a fair few of us wish they'd call themselves something that didn't imply that they represented all of us. They simply do not (not saying you are a CA member btw, just that it is a related issue IYSWIM)

smallwhitecat · 03/01/2010 19:20

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PeachyRingsInTheOld · 03/01/2010 19:21

PMSLSWC, believe what you want about my apology, not my problem.

ProcessYellowC · 03/01/2010 19:22

To the orignal OP, YANBU, I find Cameron staring down at me quite creepy. And to the suggestion to look away, well it is so lifelike I can feel his eyes following me!

nighbynight · 03/01/2010 19:45

lol Peachy, I just checked my post again to make sure I didnt inadvertently write it wrongly...I am against hunting of course!!

UnquietDad · 03/01/2010 20:44

I'm one of those irritating people who believes it is healthy for democracy to have a change in government every so often, even if it means that the party you personally want may not get in. I thought this in 1997 and I think it now.

saultanpepper · 03/01/2010 20:47

OP - YABU - be thankful that we live somewhere (for the time being) where all political parties are allowed to put up election posters and where in the main the elections are free and fair (postal elections in Labour 'strongholds' notwithstanding).

Hunting - I could't care less about foxes and genuinely couldn't give a toss whether hunting them with dogs is banned or not - what I do care about is Labour's stupid, pointless, small-minded, pathetic class war - banning hunting solely because it's supposedly middle-class (cue Tony Banks turning to the Tory benches and mouthing 'that's for the miners' as the vote came in). In my experience the people who bang on incessantly about class are the ones who have none.

Brown is old-style Labour and as such shouldn't be allowed within a planetary diameter of the public finances - in his first Budget he said that 'pension funds in this country are awash with cash' and as such promptly scrapped the tax relief on dividends paid into pension funds. The result of which cost the pension industry £4bn a year, and thousands of pensioners are worse off and claiming benefits that they wouldn't otherwise need to. Pension funds are closing every week, the final salary pension is a thing of the past (except in the public sector, where GB wants everyone to be employed anyway, which means that billions of pounds of taxpayers' money is going prop up public pension funds instead of paying other benefits).

The tax system is now so complex it's impossible to know whether you're paying the right tax, or claiming the right credits. He repeatedly said he wouldn't increase income tax, and then promptly increased NI instead. Well, sorry, Gord, but NI is taken at source and is based on your income. If it looks like an income tax, walks like an income tax, and sounds like an income tax, it's probably an income tax. We're repeatedly hit with tax hikes on fuel, which hits some of the poorest people hardest, on the grounds that it's 'green'. Bollocks - if any of the parties were properly interested in green motoring they'd scrap VAT on hybrids and invest public funds in hydrogen fuel cell technology.

And on the subject of green power, google 'thorium reactor' and then tell me why we're still in the realm of uranium and plutonium reactors (Hint: you can't make bombs from thorium) and those bloody godawful wind turbine forests that cost the earth to build and erect.

What did GB (and Blair before him) fuck up?

The FSA. A paper tiger - stumbling about fining companies for mis-selling a few pounds' worth of payment protection insurance when what they should have been doing is subjecting banks' balance sheets to proper scrutiny.

Pensions. See above.

Law and order. Since 1997 there have been over 3000 new offences brought onto the statute books. It is completely impossible for anyone, police officer, magistrate, lawyer, to keep up with this amount of legislation. What they should have done was simplify the legal system, reduce the number of offences, make the offences that are left mean something, increase the number of sworn officers, reduce the amount of paperwork required on arrest, unify the computer systems so that officers have to enter data on one system instead of three, and get rid of PCSO's.

Bullion. Selling off the country's gold reserves when the price of gold was at a record low. The incompetent tosser should have been charged with malfeasence in a public office for that.

Devolution. We live in Her Britannic Majesty's United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. How come Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland all get local parliaments but England doesn't? Why are Scottish MP's still allowed to vote on issues that don't affect their constituents?

The NHS. Why has my local A&E departmnet been downgraded to an Urgent Care Centre, against the clearly mandated will of the local populace, and had it's opening hours halved, leaving the entire borough without an A&E overnight? We don't need the Tories to wreck the NHS, the incumbent numpties are doing just fine.

I don't know who I'm voting for this year yet - they're all as bad as each other - but it won't be for Labour. They've had plenty of time to fix stuff but have spurned every chance they've had.

saultanpepper · 03/01/2010 20:49

UQD - Completely agree.

UnquietDad · 03/01/2010 20:50

The fact that we have an active, vibrant Opposition with policies which clearly conflict with those of the Government, and which they are already flagging up, is surely a very good thing. Labour have stormed the last three elections because the Opposition were ineffectual.

Lovecat · 03/01/2010 21:11

To those who are saying IBU because political parties need to advertise, I have no objection to seeing political posters of whatever stripe during an election, but I do object to having their policies (or the lack of them) stuck in my face before the election's actually been called.

Seriously, if you drive up the North Circular, A13 and Blackwall Tunnel road today, you will see SIX of the bloody things in quick succession, all the same message - t'was a bit Big Brother(or rather DC's shiny forehead)ish...

If it were GB and co. or Nick Clegg I'd be complaining about the same thing, honest

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littlemoominmamma · 03/01/2010 21:44

Hmmm - am i the only one who finds DC quite attractive then? - sod policys!!! more lovely photos!!! yum!

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