Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To lose my temper with Ex husband over Daughter.

13 replies

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:16

DD is almost 4. We split up a year ago. Prior to splitting up he was never around ( forces) and we did split up for 2 years as well.
Since september he has been having DD almost every other weekend for one night. He hasnt had her the last 2 weeks at all as he had a night out planned. ( apparently that is more important!)
We live an hour apart. ( when we seperated i was made homeless as we lived in an army house, so i moved nearer to my family).
Yesterday he drove down to see DD in her nativity play. I had told him about it and that it was only half an hour and that she had plans straight after it ( christmas party). I told him this, and said it was up to him that he came. He did come, but DD didnt want to see him and hid behind my legs. ( she has been saying a lot recently that she doesnt want to see him, she wont talk to him on the phone. She crys for hours prior to going to his.) He got in a huff with her in the nursery in front of everyone then said it was my fault. ( i encourage her to go to his, to speak to him on the phone. i dont want her to have a crap relationship with her dad as i know what thats like). He then picked her up and carried her out of the nursery with her shouting ' put me down, im not a baby'. he then had a go at me when i said we had to go as apparently he had a spare hour.

Then it he tells me he had got DD the same present i have, but to be kept at his flat. I had told him what i had got her, so he wouldnt get the same. And thats what he has done.

DD is really tired and run down at the mommment. She has got a mouth full of ulcers, bags under her eyes and looks shattered. WE are having a quiet day at home today. She always comes back from His complleatly shattered. Last time he had her i had to take the day off work as she just looked terrible and kept falling asleep. I have tried to tell him about making sure she has some quiet chilled out time. He says thats boring and its not his fault if she is tired, its mine as i chose to work, and therefore have to put her in nursery.

She keeps saying she doesnt want to go to his. Last time she went she was crying all day. AT 4pm i had had enough and called him to say that i wasnt going to send her. ( she had been like that the time before as well, but had got her to go in the end, but when she is hanging onto my legs begging to stay with me all day. its hard to make her) Of course he said that was my fault and i must be poisioning her mind. Nevermind the fact that i had plans for that weekend too, which if DD stayed with me i would have to cancel! In the end i got DD to agree that if we drive halfway to his and meet him and if she still didnt want to go with him we would come home. She did go in the end, but its not something im going to keep doing.
he wanted to have her for 4 nights in the run up to christmas, with how she is being i said 2 would be better. he said that DD is 4 and should get no choice and that she doesnt know what her own thoughts and feelings are and should be made to do as she his told.

Im just so angry with him. He doesnt seem to get that she is a person, she may be four, but she still is a person. I certainly dont let her get away with much, i am quite strict. But i do think she should be listen to. I dont know what i can do to get him to understand. He has only maybe lived with her for 6 months of her life, he hardly knows her at all.

OP posts:
shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:19

Luckily he is going away for 6 weeks after christmas so we wont have to deal with him for a while. BUT after then he is having surgery on his foot and wont be able to walk/drive. he has told me i will have to drive and hour each way , so 4 trips in total to take DD to his every other weekend, but that he wont pay me petrol money.
I dont have the money to afford to do that. I dont have the time to be able to do that.
Rubbish situation.

OP posts:
pippaNnippa · 11/12/2009 09:22

You seem to be doing a good job trying to get your dd to go to her dads but if it were me I'd do everything possible to make it happen.

Simply because my dad has hardly ever seen me since him and my mum split and it has been awful.

Why don't you offer to let him visit at yours?

pippaNnippa · 11/12/2009 09:23

I would make him give you petrol money though.

GypsyMoth · 11/12/2009 09:25

is there a cout order?

with children of this age and especially as she is being reluctant,then i think lots of short contact is better than the 4 nights he proposese. but i also feel he is right in the fact she should do what the adults say (yesshe is a person,but courts won't listen to very young children in court)

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:31

No - i will not let him visit at mine. NO WAY.

This is my home. He has been violet to me in the past. He snoops and goes through stuff. I would not trust him.

My parents also split up, i was older, but its still horrible. I really didnt want that for DD, which is why i kept taking him back ( lots of affairs, Domestic violence). I want DD to have a good relationship with him, but unless he changes his attitude towards actually being a parent as oppossed to just making a big show of doing something once month. i cant see how its going to happen.

I am also not going to make DD go somewhere she really doesnt. If he has to stop having her overnight for a while, or what, i dont know. Its rubbish. If he would work alongside me it would be better. But he doesnt, instead its my fault, because of cours DD cant think for herself can she!

OP posts:
mylifemykids · 11/12/2009 09:33

You said that he hasn't seen her for 2 weekends because of nights out but then you say you didn't send her because she was crying?! Which is it?

I DO understand your dilemma and it would break my heart to see my child like yours. Maybe you could do as someone else suggested and help their relationship by letting him have her nearer to your house?

GypsyMoth · 11/12/2009 09:34

if he takes you to court for access then you'll have no choice but to hand her over

have you considered mediation?

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:34

There is no court order. Ive said little and often for contact, He mostly works half day on a wed and fri. Ive said so many times that if he came and saw her then thay would be great for her. But he wont. Says its too far.

I agree that she should go, and ive been making her, but there comes a point where i feel that im breaking her trust. Last time she was literally clinging onto me, hysterically sobbing ( which she never does) saying please dont make me go mummy, i just want to stay with you.

If he phones ( rare) she runs off a hides.

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 11/12/2009 09:36

no way should you have him at your house....totally agree!! my ex was also violentand the one time i let him here,he also was snooping through my thinhgs, army too!!

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:37

no, i did send her, even though she was crying, that was 2 weekends ago.

The last time he was meant to have her he didnt as he had a night out planned.

It breaks my heart also. If he listened to me, im sure we could work together to help the problem. BUT HE WONT. Ive asked for mediation so many times. he refuses.

He wont ever take me to court for a court order, the very nature of his job means contact can never be regular. ( He isnt on tour at the momment, so is about, but still the plans change at the last momment, and i have to fit in with them)

OP posts:
GypsyMoth · 11/12/2009 09:38

he needs to make the effort to build her trust....which he won't do by making frequent trips for small periods of time. so he is the one causing all this

shoptilidrop · 11/12/2009 09:41

I think thats the crux of the matter.

Ive said in the past about him phoning on regualr days. if he wont speak to him, at least she will know he is calling for her, she might then start to talk to him.

Ive said about him posting her a letter or drawing or something, she would love that, and i think that would help.

Ive said about doing a webcam thing. She does that with family members, but he wont.

I cant keep making all the effort and keep pushing it. AND IT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY WHEN HE BLAMES ME.

OP posts:
pippaNnippa · 11/12/2009 10:19

Didn't know about the violence previous- you are right not to let him see her at yours.

Do you trust him with your DD? Has he ever threatened / hurt her?

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread